"The list of what the Osprey can't do is longer than the list of what it can do."

Onkel Neal · 06-30-09, 03:08 PM

Here's the thing; the Osprey may not work as well as wished for, but I think it's good to keep pushing the envelope on technical designs. A lot of innovations have been discovered that way.

AVGWarhawk · 06-30-09, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Here's the thing; the Osprey may not work as well as wished for, but I think it's good to keep pushing the envelope on technical designs. A lot of innovations have been discovered that way.

True but after 30 deaths and numerous other issues, time to throw in the towel on this bird.

Letum · 06-30-09, 03:35 PM

Isn't the list of what anything can't do longer than the list of things it can do?

Platapus · 06-30-09, 03:40 PM

a hundred million a copy?????

Yikes!

It is cooleo technology but if it does not really help solve a problem, it is a rather expensive toy.

Aramike · 06-30-09, 04:47 PM

Didn't Dick Cheney try to stop funding for this when he was SecDef?

Platapus · 06-30-09, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Aramike

Didn't Dick Cheney try to stop funding for this when he was SecDef?

I think that was the Navy's A-12 another albatross.

Aramike · 06-30-09, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

I think that was the Navy's A-12 another albatross.

You got me curious so I looked it up. Looks like he killed the A-12 completely, while he attempted but failed to kill the V-22, along with the F-14D, AND the Seawolf sub. Interesting stuff...

http://www.issues2000.org/celeb/dick_cheney_defense.htm

SUBMAN1 · 06-30-09, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

Isn't the list of what anything can't do longer than the list of things it can do?

Damn straight it is!

Matter of fact, the Osprey has 99% of all of its kinks ironed out. No one has ever made something like this so there is bound to be a problem or two in the beginning. Sad about the loss of life.

I've been in an Osprey and it is one fine piece of equipment these days.

-S

SUBMAN1 · 06-30-09, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

True but after 30 deaths and numerous other issues, time to throw in the towel on this bird.

30 deaths were 10 years ago when it was pressed into service before it was ready. The reports out of Iraq and Afghanistan however are glowing beyond expectation, so things have changed since those days. It is beating Black Hawks for reliability now.

-S

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