Why do we get sunk?

nikbear · 06-26-09, 06:40 PM

I have lost count of the number of times over confidence and sheer tonnage greed has got me into hot water

I think it is one of the single biggest career killers going

Like others have mentioned,I have been known to cut a patrol short if I think that I've sustained to much damage,The risks are just far to great

I'd rather go home with 20,000grt and get there,than take a risk and go after the enemy with a hull thats damaged and puts me on the defensive before I've even fired an eel

By mid 42' onwards you are on a losing ticket as it is,taking any unwaranted risks is a sure fire way to the bottom

Im sure we've all been there a few times:rotfl:
One of the greatest skills a commander can have and so little touched upon,is the ability to know when to judge that 'discretion is the better part of valour'.......You know when you've pushed lady luck to far,and its time to call it a day

Brer Rabbit · 06-26-09, 08:32 PM

I have been reading the interrogation reports from captured u-boat crews, and it is no suprise that the events and results are similar to RL.

Akmatov · 06-26-09, 09:47 PM

As one struggling to get into SH, this thread is very interesting. While still trying to get through the Academy, I have read a bit about the submarine campaigns and thought about it a bit, especially lately.

It is very good to see you guys agreeing, based on experience, with the plan I'm hoping to stick to once I get going - Great Caution and a willingness to pass up that one more juicy shot that is a bit risky. A sub is inherently a tin can just waiting to sink. I'm hoping I will be able to follow a program of the greatest stealth and abject cowardice and see how far I can get.

I plan to spend nothing on Flak as historically it was a failure. I'm hoping to hone my crews diving and running skills as best I can. And I hope to never waste a single shell on irritating a surface ship with far more guns than I.

As has been said here and elsewhere, you can be brave or old, not both.

This looks like so much fun, as soon as I can figure out the secret mission end sequence without the secret code ring - my copy seems to have omitted that.

Doolar · 06-26-09, 09:59 PM

We the Captain , Officers and the Crew of U-45 would like to send our deepest regrets to the friends and familys of the HEROIC crew of U-371 . Their bravery and dedication to the FATHERLAND was second to none . You will be missed . Captain ERWIN DUSCHEK
U-45 on patrol

Wicked Popsicle · 06-27-09, 02:36 AM

Those limeys are sneaky you turn your head and they'll get the best of you. just ask the the 1000000 captains I played as. Oops I forgot R.I.P.

Sgtmonkeynads · 06-27-09, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brer Rabbit

I have been reading the interrogation reports from captured u-boat crews, and it is no suprise that the events and results are similar to RL.

Where can I find these? Those would make a great read!!!!!!!

nikbear · 06-27-09, 06:21 AM

http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-172INT.htm

http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-177INT.htm

Fascinating reading

meduza · 06-27-09, 06:29 AM

Thanks, nikbear. Great stuff.

Shadowblade · 06-27-09, 06:51 AM

2 nikbear: Thank you, Herr Kaleun

Sailor Steve · 06-27-09, 02:41 PM

I agree with the others: the main reason we get sunk is greed. I try to imagine it's real. I even questioned at one time if I would play differently if I put the game away forever if I died in a career, or at least for a year. I know I couldn't ever really do that, but it makes me think about being cautious sometimes.

06-26-09, 06:40 PM	#1
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	I have lost count of the number of times over confidence and sheer tonnage greed has got me into hot water I think it is one of the single biggest career killers going Like others have mentioned,I have been known to cut a patrol short if I think that I've sustained to much damage,The risks are just far to great I'd rather go home with 20,000grt and get there,than take a risk and go after the enemy with a hull thats damaged and puts me on the defensive before I've even fired an eel By mid 42' onwards you are on a losing ticket as it is,taking any unwaranted risks is a sure fire way to the bottom Im sure we've all been there a few times:rotfl: One of the greatest skills a commander can have and so little touched upon,is the ability to know when to judge that 'discretion is the better part of valour'.......You know when you've pushed lady luck to far,and its time to call it a day __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

06-26-09, 08:32 PM	#2
Brer Rabbit Briar Patch Runner Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 95 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Over confidence and carelessness I have been reading the interrogation reports from captured u-boat crews, and it is no suprise that the events and results are similar to RL.

06-26-09, 09:59 PM	#4
Doolar Expert Shipsinker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Baltimore,Md./ CA45 Posts: 922 Downloads: 362 Uploads: 0	Regrets We the Captain , Officers and the Crew of U-45 would like to send our deepest regrets to the friends and familys of the HEROIC crew of U-371 . Their bravery and dedication to the FATHERLAND was second to none . You will be missed . Captain ERWIN DUSCHEK U-45 on patrol

06-27-09, 02:36 AM	#5
Wicked Popsicle A-ganger Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 73 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Those limeys are sneaky you turn your head and they'll get the best of you. just ask the the 1000000 captains I played as. Oops I forgot R.I.P. __________________

06-27-09, 06:21 AM	#7
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-172INT.htm http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-177INT.htm Fascinating reading __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

06-26-09, 09:47 PM	#3
Akmatov Seaman Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Desert, USA Posts: 38 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	As one struggling to get into SH, this thread is very interesting. While still trying to get through the Academy, I have read a bit about the submarine campaigns and thought about it a bit, especially lately. It is very good to see you guys agreeing, based on experience, with the plan I'm hoping to stick to once I get going - Great Caution and a willingness to pass up that one more juicy shot that is a bit risky. A sub is inherently a tin can just waiting to sink. I'm hoping I will be able to follow a program of the greatest stealth and abject cowardice and see how far I can get. I plan to spend nothing on Flak as historically it was a failure. I'm hoping to hone my crews diving and running skills as best I can. And I hope to never waste a single shell on irritating a surface ship with far more guns than I. As has been said here and elsewhere, you can be brave or old, not both. This looks like so much fun, as soon as I can figure out the secret mission end sequence without the secret code ring - my copy seems to have omitted that.

06-27-09, 06:29 AM	#8
meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Thanks, nikbear. Great stuff. __________________

06-27-09, 06:51 AM	#9
Shadowblade Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 780 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	2 nikbear: Thank you, Herr Kaleun __________________ Kapitänleutnant Vlad von Carstein - U-Flotilla Saltzwedel - U-123, Type IXB SH3 GWX 3.0

06-27-09, 02:41 PM	#10
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I agree with the others: the main reason we get sunk is greed. I try to imagine it's real. I even questioned at one time if I would play differently if I put the game away forever if I died in a career, or at least for a year. I know I couldn't ever really do that, but it makes me think about being cautious sometimes. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo