Michael Jackson

Skybird · 06-25-09, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I'm like GR, I grew up listening to the guy. Thriller was cool. I did not buy his albums or anything but he was part of the music world in my teenage years. Got to remember, his singing and dancing really influenced the pop stars of today.

Absolutely, his influence on pop culture is undisputed. But the "problem" I have with him - to put i into words - has nothing to do with his music back then (although I was not really a fan). I think he spend his life in a way andthat is not suited well for being seen as an idol by many younger people. And I do not mean just the scandals. Everybody has to admit that he was behaving strange, wasn't he, and that he had strange priorities and preferences. The psychologist in me collects symptoms when thinking of him. He often does when seeing "celebreties" behaving in their strange ways.

AVGWarhawk · 06-25-09, 08:07 PM

He certainly was a case study. I liken it to a genius who borders on insanity. His genius though was music and his choreography was as just as genius as his music. He did border on insanity back in the day and if I recall correctly took nothing less than perfection in his work. In the end, it showed. Thriller as platnium x20. That in itself shows his work was much admired.

GoldenRivet · 06-25-09, 08:12 PM

i think there is something else to be said for the number of responses to this thread vs that of the late charlies angel...

this thread already up to 3 pages

the other thread?

perhaps its the fact that Jackson is so controversial and Farrah Fawcett was not?

Monica Lewinsky · 06-25-09, 08:20 PM

bye, bye ... won't miss ya at all.

SS107.9MHz · 06-26-09, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Monica Lewinsky

bye, bye ... won't miss ya at all.

Distastefull!

TDK1044 · 06-26-09, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

i think there is something else to be said for the number of responses to this thread vs that of the late charlies angel...

this thread already up to 3 pages

the other thread?

perhaps its the fact that Jackson is so controversial and Farrah Fawcett was not?

I think it's because there are a tiny number of individuals in any generation who are here to influence and inspire others, and who seem destined to die young having completed their task. John Lennon was one. Elvis was another. Michael Jackson is in that mould.

Whether you loved him or loathed him, he was an inspirational character to millions of people accross the world.

XabbaRus · 06-26-09, 07:28 AM

Can we try and keep it respectful and lay off the sick jokes? Seriously I know he might not have been everyone's cup of tea and he was a very screwed up individual but since the minutes his death was announced the quite cruel jokes appeared.

You may have noticed that I have edited a number of posts that are in bad taste, either images or message.

Feel free to discuss him and his issues and what he did, but in a muture rational manner that I know we are capable of here.

Kapt Z · 06-26-09, 08:53 AM

So much talent.

So many demons.

Torplexed · 06-25-09, 08:22 PM

I wasn't the biggest MJ fan. I did like Off the Wall, but I eventually burnt out on all the video and media hype surrounding Thriller and every album after. I think as time passed he became nothing less than mentally ill with the self-indulgent skin treatments and surgeries, oxygen tent bed, etc. I wonder if it isn't a small mercy that he died before taking the stage in London next month. We'll never know for sure as he was a consummate showman, but watching a frail and pale 50-year old trying to pull the same moves he did at 23 could have painful and sad.

mookiemookie · 06-25-09, 08:32 PM

I really felt sad for him. His life was so screwed from the start because of his child stardom and his father and I believe that was what turned him so wacky.

End of an era indeed...

Schroeder · 06-26-09, 04:48 AM

I don't know much about him.
But to me it always seemed as if he was destroyed by his father's obsession for success. From what I heard the Jackson kids had to be successful or they got beaten by their father. I think he took his first mental cracks there. Then came all the success that sometimes has the tendency to drive people nuts. Maybe all his weird behaviour (for example buying [building?] the Neverland Ranch, being close to kids, changing his face) was just a reaction to not having had a childhood himself and wanting to be someone else. Whether he was a Pedo was never proven. The moment a star is accused of such a thing they have to do everything to end those accusations as quickly as possible or their career is over no matter whether they get convicted or an innocent verdict. The parents of those kids knew that they would have good chances of grabbing millions of dollars, don't forget that.

He definitely has had a major impact on the music of the 80's.
R.I.P MJ

Dowly · 06-26-09, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

The parents of those kids knew that they would have good chances of grabbing millions of dollars, don't forget that.

When the kids were alone with MJ on the ranch, MJ had good chances of grabbing some bollocks too, so dont forget that either.

Jimbuna · 06-26-09, 06:39 AM

At the end of the day....love him or hate him....he was a human being.

RIP

UnderseaLcpl · 06-26-09, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

At the end of the day....love him or hate him....he was a human being.

RIP

My sentiments exactly.

rubenandthejets · 06-26-09, 06:39 AM

At least now MJ can blow bubbles again, since they're both dead now.

06-25-09, 08:07 PM	#2
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,275 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	He certainly was a case study. I liken it to a genius who borders on insanity. His genius though was music and his choreography was as just as genius as his music. He did border on insanity back in the day and if I recall correctly took nothing less than perfection in his work. In the end, it showed. Thriller as platnium x20. That in itself shows his work was much admired. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	i think there is something else to be said for the number of responses to this thread vs that of the late charlies angel... this thread already up to 3 pages the other thread? perhaps its the fact that Jackson is so controversial and Farrah Fawcett was not? __________________

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Monica Lewinsky Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 845 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	bye, bye ... won't miss ya at all. __________________ Sink them all! Last edited by XabbaRus; 06-26-09 at 03:26 AM.

06-26-09, 07:28 AM	#7
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Can we try and keep it respectful and lay off the sick jokes? Seriously I know he might not have been everyone's cup of tea and he was a very screwed up individual but since the minutes his death was announced the quite cruel jokes appeared. You may have noticed that I have edited a number of posts that are in bad taste, either images or message. Feel free to discuss him and his issues and what he did, but in a muture rational manner that I know we are capable of here. __________________

06-25-09, 08:32 PM	#10
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	I really felt sad for him. His life was so screwed from the start because of his child stardom and his father and I believe that was what turned him so wacky. End of an era indeed... __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

06-26-09, 08:53 AM	#8
Kapt Z Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ...somewhere in the swamps of Jersey. Posts: 909 Downloads: 157 Uploads: 0	So much talent. So many demons.

06-25-09, 08:22 PM	#9
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I wasn't the biggest MJ fan. I did like Off the Wall, but I eventually burnt out on all the video and media hype surrounding Thriller and every album after. I think as time passed he became nothing less than mentally ill with the self-indulgent skin treatments and surgeries, oxygen tent bed, etc. I wonder if it isn't a small mercy that he died before taking the stage in London next month. We'll never know for sure as he was a consummate showman, but watching a frail and pale 50-year old trying to pull the same moves he did at 23 could have painful and sad.

06-26-09, 04:48 AM	#11
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	I don't know much about him. But to me it always seemed as if he was destroyed by his father's obsession for success. From what I heard the Jackson kids had to be successful or they got beaten by their father. I think he took his first mental cracks there. Then came all the success that sometimes has the tendency to drive people nuts. Maybe all his weird behaviour (for example buying [building?] the Neverland Ranch, being close to kids, changing his face) was just a reaction to not having had a childhood himself and wanting to be someone else. Whether he was a Pedo was never proven. The moment a star is accused of such a thing they have to do everything to end those accusations as quickly as possible or their career is over no matter whether they get convicted or an innocent verdict. The parents of those kids knew that they would have good chances of grabbing millions of dollars, don't forget that. He definitely has had a major impact on the music of the 80's. R.I.P MJ __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

06-26-09, 06:39 AM	#13
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,645 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	At the end of the day....love him or hate him....he was a human being. RIP __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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rubenandthejets 中国水兵 Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 279 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	At least now MJ can blow bubbles again, since they're both dead now. __________________ HMAS Sydney III "Thorough and Ready"