Here it comes ! House eyes new taxes as senators pare health bill

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Thousands?



The fact that this landed in a lawsuit indicates it is an abboration.

It's in the insurance company's best interest to deny care as they are a for profit business. Their interests and yours as the insured's are not aligned.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

It's in the insurance company's best interest to deny care as they are a for profit business. Their interests and yours as the insured's are not aligned.

And you think a pencil pusher on the Hill that has as much a medical background as you and I really has an interest in your care? The government does not care about your healthcare. Look at the VA for that. What a disgrace the VA is. Walter Reed was a crying shame. Yeah, Washington gives a crap about you. That is laughable at best. Obama already stated he would eliminate tests for what they consider unnecessary. That is great, no need to go with the doctors recommendations. We will listen to Will the page and see what he thinks right after fetching some paperwork for Senator Beanhead.

Again, medicare is a failing system for the elderly....do think this nationalized healthcare is going to work The VA hospitals are medicre at best. Walter Reed was a crying shame.

What everyone needs to worry about at the moment is this new energy bill. Do you realize your living expenses are going to go up between $2000.00-$4000.00 per year if this bill passes? Pelosi is pushing this bill this week. Good luck to us if this bill passes and you throw in healthcare for all on top of. In short gents, we are hosed. We are about to be taxed to the hilt. Grab your ankles, this is going to hurt for a good long while.

Obama and his cronies are destroying the country in the name of being a 'do gooder'. It is being done at your expense and my expense. Heres to the victory garden at the White House.

[AVGWarhawk]

http://corner.nationalreview.com/pos...mQ0ZGFkODM0YzI

The President Tries to Change His Health-Care Tune [James C. Capretta]


At his press conference today, President Obama scrambled to “clarify” his promise to Americans on health care. It won’t work.

The problem for President Obama is that he and his allies want to pass an untested, government-heavy program — but without saying so.

The president’s “clarification” seems highly unlikely to be the final word on this. For starters, it doesn’t matter much to the voting public who pulls the trigger. They don’t want today’s stable, job-based coverage turned upside by “reform.” When they hear that tens of millions of people will get moved out of employer plans and into the “government option,” they will wonder if they themselves will have to switch insurance — and most don’t want to. The president’s comments today aren’t likely to put their fears to rest.

It is a good article. Read it.

[SteamWake]

To help balance its budget, California has reduced the state tax credit for dependents.

Yea try to explain that to the parents.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BUN418BJU3.DTL

[SteamWake]

While everyone is 'discussing' health care watch out for this little bill to be voted on this friday.

Cap & Trade

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123655590609066021.html

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

While everyone is 'discussing' health care watch out for this little bill to be voted on this friday.

Cap & Trade

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123655590609066021.html

Agreed, this bill has some momentum and it could turn very ugly for ALL. Imagine, your nice $100.00 electric bill for the month will become $250.00 for the month. Energy cost will skyrocket under this lame bill. Such BS on this bill and loaded with earmarks. Now, we all know who is paying for the trillion dollar stimulus. Sure, we will raise the taxes on those making $250,000.00 per year. Spit in the bucket.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

And you think a pencil pusher on the Hill that has as much a medical background as you and I really has an interest in your care? The government does not care about your healthcare.

It seems to work for every other civilized nation in the world.

[Tchocky]

Krugman put it rather well -

The reform argument actually goes like this: 1. Every other advanced country has universal coverage, protecting its citizens from the financial risks of uninsurance as well as ensuring that everyone gets basic care.
2. They do this while spending far less on health care than we do.
3. Yet they don’t seem to do worse in overall health results.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

It seems to work for every other civilized nation in the world.

You don't understand something, this is forced on us. There is not take your healthcare plan if you like it. Every year those outside of the plan will have to staple on their returns a paper that looks like a W2 so you can be taxed on it. Furthermore, your choice of doctors and treatment are limited not to mention the time for Joe the Pencil Pusher do decide with his History BA what kind of treatment is best for you. To further that notion, reduced cost/charges reduces individuals that are in the medical field and or interested in the medical field. So, when you are in the hospital and ring the nurse for help at midnight you might see one as early as 0400. Seriously, would anyone spend 22 years of schooling, another 4 years of medical school and internship to make minimum wage? And, to add, no one in Congress has to join this. They keep what they have. What, is not what is good for the goose not good for the gander? If the plan was so good the entire congressional body would be the first to sign up. They can do whatever they want with whatever doctor they wish. Sorry, bad PR.

I agree we need reform but this reform is way to radical. It will burn like Hillary's bill did.