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Old 06-22-09, 03:37 PM   #1
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Lets see. Watch money go down the drain as such and such charity comes back next year begging for more money. Or donate it to fusion research or technology research which will improve a great many more lives.

Sorry but I am sick of hearing the pleas of charities year after year after year with the same tired stories the same tired stuff. You save one life there is 50 lining up behind it.

Nope focus on fusion and alternative energy and cheap energy to improve lives.

Edit: BTW this is a sick way to raise money and the title is even sicker. Reported...
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Old 06-22-09, 03:50 PM   #2
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Lets see. Watch money go down the drain as such and such charity comes back next year begging for more money. Or donate it to fusion research or technology research which will improve a great many more lives.

Sorry but I am sick of hearing the pleas of charities year after year after year with the same tired stories the same tired stuff. You save one life there is 50 lining up behind it.

Nope focus on fusion and alternative energy and cheap energy to improve lives.

Edit: BTW this is a sick way to raise money and the title is even sicker. Reported...
WHAT?!



I have had this thread approved by Neal directly!

if you dont wish to cooperate with it that is perfectly fine... there is no nead to be a complete jerk about it

i am TOTALLY SHOCKED at the completely uncalled for and MEAN SPIRITED response you just gave

its a dollar for God's Sake!
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Old 06-22-09, 03:54 PM   #3
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Geez Zachstar what has gotten into you? This is legit dude.
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Old 06-22-09, 03:54 PM   #4
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Lets see. Watch money go down the drain as such and such charity comes back next year begging for more money. Or donate it to fusion research or technology research which will improve a great many more lives.

Sorry but I am sick of hearing the pleas of charities year after year after year with the same tired stories the same tired stuff. You save one life there is 50 lining up behind it.

Nope focus on fusion and alternative energy and cheap energy to improve lives.

Edit: BTW this is a sick way to raise money and the title is even sicker. Reported...
That was pretty bad, man. You could have just ignored the thread.
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Old 06-22-09, 04:09 PM   #5
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Lets see. Watch money go down the drain as such and such charity comes back next year begging for more money. Or donate it to fusion research or technology research which will improve a great many more lives.

Sorry but I am sick of hearing the pleas of charities year after year after year with the same tired stories the same tired stuff. You save one life there is 50 lining up behind it.

Nope focus on fusion and alternative energy and cheap energy to improve lives.

Edit: BTW this is a sick way to raise money and the title is even sicker. Reported...
Wow, how screwed up must one be to think that someone sacrificing their time for helping babies is "sick"?

Seriously, I'd like to know...

Personally, I hope that your post and any subsequent post related to it (including this one) is deleted so that this thread can remain on the very good topic of helping your fellow man.
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Old 06-22-09, 04:33 PM   #6
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To you and your wife for a good and needful cause. We actually used to have charity drives on the boats. I think twice a year as I remember and anyone who would not give was worthy of being keel hauled....
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Old 06-22-09, 04:38 PM   #7
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To you and your wife for a good and needful cause. We actually used to have charity drives on the boats. I think twice a year as I remember and anyone who would not give was worthy of being keel hauled....
I appreciate your kind words.

all in all i think that most of her fund raising will come locally, from members of our local community on the day of her "incarceration".

hopefully subsim's members will help bring her a hand full of small donations closer to her goal.

im doign this as a favor to my wife, and to - even if in some small way - help subsim... no other motive.

if a subsim member wishes to donate $1 or $10 no contribution is too small.

i do not however - want to see this become a competition choosing to donate or choosing NOT to donate are choices completely up to the member involved.

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Wow, how screwed up must one be to think that someone sacrificing their time for helping babies is "sick"?

Seriously, I'd like to know...

Personally, I hope that your post and any subsequent post related to it (including this one) is deleted so that this thread can remain on the very good topic of helping your fellow man.
Yea it's funny though...When I speak about, say, the UNICEF and it's global programs to help children world wide Americans say things like "F - you commie" etc. I guess some charities are ok then.
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My best friends son was born 3 months too early,fortunately we have good healthcare in the Netherlands and he is now a 1,5 year old boy and everything turned out fine..

Good luck with the cause!

Coming from a country were animal rights activists lock themselves in cages in the middle of the dam in Amsterdam,smeared with blood i'm kind off surprised by the harch reactions on the imprisonment thing...for god sakes lighten up,any way of trying to get people to donate for a good cause is justifiable..people need to wake up and stop being sarcastic and help eachother in any way..a smile,keeping a door open...you could be surprised how good it makes you and others feel,just try it..
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Old 08-08-09, 01:25 PM   #10
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Yea it's funny though...When I speak about, say, the UNICEF and it's global programs to help children world wide Americans say things like "F - you commie" etc. I guess some charities are ok then.
For one, I would never say that about any legitimate charity. For two, I'd never donate to UNICEF because it has a ridiculous amount of United Nations ineffeciency involved, but hey - it's still a good cause. I just know of better charities.
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For one, I would never say that about any legitimate charity. For two, I'd never donate to UNICEF because it has a ridiculous amount of United Nations ineffeciency involved, but hey - it's still a good cause. I just know of better charities.
Inefficient in what way? And what charity is more efficient? Not the one this thread is about I can tell you that.
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Inefficient in what way? And what charity is more efficient? Not the one this thread is about I can tell you that.
March of Dimes is one of the most effective charities in history. Research it for yourself if you don't believe me. As far as efficiency goes, dollar for dollar it has had far more impact than UNICEF.

The problem with UNICEF is that it is bogged down in UN bureaucratize, as it were. Far more so that March of Dimes, or even other charities of the same mission.

Besides, that's all irrelevent to the point which you originally brought up about Americans admonishing someone for supporting a charitable cause. I just don't see it, and I think it's a bit of a straw man argument.
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March of Dimes is one of the most effective charities in history. Research it for yourself if you don't believe me. As far as efficiency goes, dollar for dollar it has had far more impact than UNICEF.

The problem with UNICEF is that it is bogged down in UN bureaucratize, as it were. Far more so that March of Dimes, or even other charities of the same mission.

Besides, that's all irrelevent to the point which you originally brought up about Americans admonishing someone for supporting a charitable cause. I just don't see it, and I think it's a bit of a straw man argument.
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Lets see. Watch money go down the drain as such and such charity comes back next year begging for more money. Or donate it to fusion research or technology research which will improve a great many more lives.

Sorry but I am sick of hearing the pleas of charities year after year after year with the same tired stories the same tired stuff. You save one life there is 50 lining up behind it.

Nope focus on fusion and alternative energy and cheap energy to improve lives.

Edit: BTW this is a sick way to raise money and the title is even sicker. Reported...
I wouldn't agree with the Edit, but I have to agree with the above thoughts, improving the human race as a whole should be more important then a few families.

Besides, if I give a child money and he survives, what is stopping him from reproducing and producing more starving children? Then my charity was all for naught and I've made things worse.

Sorry if this sounds a bit heartless, but really I'm just trying to be a realist here.
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i think you and zach misunderstand.

this is not a "feed the children" gimmick - nor is it a "welfare" program to feed over-breeding under-privilaged children's families.

if you wish to see a starving childrens charity i direct you to Sally Struthers.

THIS particular charity is for infants who are born pre-mature, born with birth defects, or born with various unusual yet treatable conditions.

it has nothing to do with them being hungry, poor, wealthy, or any of that garbage.

this has nothing to do with the infants socio-economic status or his likelihood of becoming a millionaire or street trash, or growing up to produce a bunch of little Joe Dirts.

while supporting things like research into alternative fuels and the like is a great way to impact millions or even billions of lives in the distant or near future... charities like March of Dimes assist families in dealing with infants who (by no fault of their own) are born pre-maturely or born with birth defects etc.

march of Dimes may or may not impact millions of lives in the future - but it will have a DIRECT IMPACT on a new born infant fighting for his life in neo natal intensive care. - RIGHT NOW.

as was stated above... you have no obligation to agree or contribute... if you hate charities, or just disagree with the idea of charity, or just dont feel like parting with 99 cents... thats cool... just dont even comment on the thread.

otherwise this is a cool idea to help two things..



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