U.S. Military Set to Intercept North Korean Ship

[Platapus]

Under what authority would the United States have for intercepting a ship in international waters? Even the PSI does not allow that.

Even the latest UNSC resolution 1874 does not allow that either.

Besides you know the first North Korean ship to leave port will be totally clean as to make a big public stink about piracy on the high seas.

Originally Posted by Platapus

Under what authority would the United States have for intercepting a ship in international waters? Even the PSI does not allow that.

Even the latest UNSC resolution 1874 does not allow that either.

Besides you know the first North Korean ship to leave port will be totally clean as to make a big public stink about piracy on the high seas.

No nation will sieze the vessel, although the phrase in question is used,. UN resolution 1874 (2009) States this.......

Unanimously adopting resolution 1874 (2009) under Chapter VII, the Council sharpened its weapons import-export ban on the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea enacted in resolution 1718 (2006) ‑‑ which included armoured combat vehicles, large calibre artillery systems, attack helicopters, warships and missiles and spare parts ‑‑ by calling on States to inspect, seize and dispose of the items and by denying fuel or supplies to service the vessels carrying them.
The Council called on all States to cooperate with those inspections, and, if the flag State did not consent to inspection on the high seas, decided that that State should direct the vessel to proceed to an appropriate and convenient port for the required inspection by the local authorities.
Any Member State that undertook an inspection, or seized and disposed of such cargo, was required to promptly submit reports containing the details to the Committee monitoring the sanctions, and to report on any lack of cooperation of a flag State.
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The issue of inspections was complex and sensitive, and countries must act prudently and under the precondition of reasonable grounds and sufficient evidence, and refrain from any words or deeds that might exacerbate conflict. Under no circumstances should there be the use of force or threat of the use of force.


Personally I'm not a supporter of the UN, and its resolutions, but if ya want to live in a world of petty dictators and tyrants this is what its about.

[Platapus]

Well that has always been the problem with the United Nations.

We want the UN to have teeth and authority when ruling against someone we don't like.

We don't want the UN to have teeth and authority when ruling against someone we do like.. or us for that matter.

Well one can't have it both ways. Either the UN is empowered to dictate to all sovereign nations (including the United States) or it is not empowered.

Since the United States will never allow the UN to supersede the sovereignty of the United States, it is doubtful that any other nation will allow this either.

Most people realize that the UN is a toothless organization. What many people don't realize is that the "Big 5" deliberately designed the UN to be a toothless organization when it was formed.

Originally Posted by Platapus

Well that has always been the problem with the United Nations.

We want the UN to have teeth and authority when ruling against someone we don't like.

We don't want the UN to have teeth and authority when ruling against someone we do like.. or us for that matter.

Well one can't have it both ways. Either the UN is empowered to dictate to all sovereign nations (including the United States) or it is not empowered.

Since the United States will never allow the UN to supersede the sovereignty of the United States, it is doubtful that any other nation will allow this either.

Most people realize that the UN is a toothless organization. What many people don't realize is that the "Big 5" deliberately designed the UN to be a toothless organization when it was formed.

Would your country allow an NGO, like the UN, superceed its soveriegn authority? If you are an EU nation you already have. Don't lay this at the feet of the US. Some of us still believe in individual rights.

[CaptainHaplo]

My money is that the ship won't be molested. O will fold like a windbag. Calling it now.