Which torp do you prefer, TI or TII for early war?

Shrike37 · 06-19-09, 12:19 PM

It is Sept. 1939 and I'm just wondering what type of torpedo do you prefer to use and why? There is only the fast steam powered TI that leaves bubble trails or the electric stealthy TII.

Thanks

sharkbit · 06-19-09, 12:28 PM

I prefer the TI early on. Love the speed and versatility they had. I seem to have had little trouble with them.
I've mixed in the TII and I've had very little bad luck with them. Mostly prematures in rough seas.
Avoid setting the TII for magnetic fuse early on though.

I don't load the TI's for a normal load out later in the war except for externals, so I still have to use the good ole steamers after I move my externals inside. You just have to be more careful in daytime.

GoldenRivet · 06-19-09, 12:30 PM

i almost always leave port with the following load out

tube one: T1
tube Two: T2
tube three: T2
tube four: T1

this way spread shot one and four will have the same type of torpedoes and spread shot 2 and 3 will have the same type of torpedoes (so one does not outrun the other in a 2 shot spread)

everything else is the T1s

i prefer the higher speed setting of the t1- it allows me to get the shot off and get the attack some momentum early

Leg · 06-19-09, 12:38 PM

Early I use TI, little by little I increase the number of TII, now I'm in the '42 and in the internal reserves I've TII and externals TI

Bent Periscope · 06-19-09, 12:45 PM

I prefer TIs but will keep 1 TII in a forward tube for that occassional escort that needs a wake up call.

BP

Synthfg · 06-19-09, 12:50 PM

TI's for Warships
TII's for Merchants

Try to keep a good mix in the fore tubes and fore internal reserve,
With Rear tubes and all externals TI's (Electrics don't like being outside)

meduza · 06-19-09, 12:52 PM

I prefer TII, or any other electric torpedo over the steam one. Too many times the wakes got spotted and my attack ruined.

Bent Periscope · 06-19-09, 01:47 PM

Quote:

I prefer TIs but will keep 1 TII in a forward tube for that occassional escort that needs a wake up call.

Of course I meant at the beginning of the war when I can still get close to the merchants.

BP

onelifecrisis · 06-19-09, 02:14 PM

Early war I use nothing but TII's.

Shadowblade · 06-19-09, 03:37 PM

I prefer TI, because of speed. Anyway my u-boat has many external torpedoes (TI only).

Leandros · 06-19-09, 04:00 PM

At first when I started playing SH I used only TI's because of their speed, which can rectify your own faulty calculations. Especially against attacking ASW vessels. After a while I started to recognize the virtues of the TII and III, particularly on long shots in daylight. Ambushing ASW vessels in daylight with the TI often results in a miss (they start weaving) and subsequent discovery. Problem with the early TII, as I have experienced it, is the numerous duds on impact fuze.

Early in the war I have found the TI very reliable on short-distance (400-700 meters) magnetic fuze shots. On longer shots, however, they often go off prematurely. Particularly in rough seas. Which is a little strange as they are then set on a deeper running.

Letum · 06-19-09, 04:06 PM

I used to be a TI fan.
I never had any problem with my torps getting spotted before impact.

However, recently I have switched to TIIs. The only reason being that, unlike
with TIs, the destroyers don't always head straight for you after your torps
impact.

I still keep TIs in my aft tubes because most boats didn't have the heating
equipment needed to launch battery powered torps from the aft tubes.

sharkbit · 06-19-09, 06:05 PM

Quote:

I still keep TIs in my aft tubes because most boats didn't have the heating
equipment needed to launch battery powered torps from the aft tubes.

Really?

I never knew that.

Task Force · 06-19-09, 06:06 PM

I myself like the steamers.

Letum · 06-19-09, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkbit

Quote:

I still keep TIs in my aft tubes because most boats didn't have the heating
equipment needed to launch battery powered torps from the aft tubes.

Really?

I never knew that.

It is certainly true of at least two VIICs.
I assume that means it was true of all VIICs, but they might have fitted
torp heating to the aft late war, I don't know.

I have no idea about other U-boat types, but I wouldn't be at all surprised
if the IX did have heating gear for all tubes.

IRL all electric torps needed to have their batteries heated for 20mins to an
hour to ensure they ran at full speed and range.

06-19-09, 12:19 PM	#1
Shrike37 Watch Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 28 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Which torp do you prefer, TI or TII for early war? It is Sept. 1939 and I'm just wondering what type of torpedo do you prefer to use and why? There is only the fast steam powered TI that leaves bubble trails or the electric stealthy TII. Thanks

06-19-09, 12:28 PM	#2
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	I prefer the TI early on. Love the speed and versatility they had. I seem to have had little trouble with them. I've mixed in the TII and I've had very little bad luck with them. Mostly prematures in rough seas. Avoid setting the TII for magnetic fuse early on though. I don't load the TI's for a normal load out later in the war except for externals, so I still have to use the good ole steamers after I move my externals inside. You just have to be more careful in daytime. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

06-19-09, 12:30 PM	#3
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	i almost always leave port with the following load out tube one: T1 tube Two: T2 tube three: T2 tube four: T1 this way spread shot one and four will have the same type of torpedoes and spread shot 2 and 3 will have the same type of torpedoes (so one does not outrun the other in a 2 shot spread) everything else is the T1s i prefer the higher speed setting of the t1- it allows me to get the shot off and get the attack some momentum early __________________

06-19-09, 12:52 PM	#7
meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	I prefer TII, or any other electric torpedo over the steam one. Too many times the wakes got spotted and my attack ruined. __________________

06-19-09, 02:14 PM	#9
onelifecrisis Maverick Modder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: England Posts: 3,895 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 3	Early war I use nothing but TII's. __________________ Freedom of speech - priceless. For everything else there's Mastercard.

06-19-09, 12:38 PM	#4
Leg Electrician's Mate Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 140 Downloads: 237 Uploads: 0	Early I use TI, little by little I increase the number of TII, now I'm in the '42 and in the internal reserves I've TII and externals TI

06-19-09, 12:45 PM	#5
Bent Periscope Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Dry docks of Los Angeles, CA Posts: 250 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	I prefer TIs but will keep 1 TII in a forward tube for that occassional escort that needs a wake up call. BP

06-19-09, 12:50 PM	#6
Synthfg Sparky Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 154 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	TI's for Warships TII's for Merchants Try to keep a good mix in the fore tubes and fore internal reserve, With Rear tubes and all externals TI's (Electrics don't like being outside)

06-19-09, 03:37 PM	#10
Shadowblade Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 693 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	I prefer TI, because of speed. Anyway my u-boat has many external torpedoes (TI only). __________________ Kapitänleutnant Vlad von Carstein - U-Flotilla Saltzwedel - U-123, Type IXB SH3 GWX 3.0

06-19-09, 04:00 PM	#11
Leandros Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Stockholm Posts: 676 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	At first when I started playing SH I used only TI's because of their speed, which can rectify your own faulty calculations. Especially against attacking ASW vessels. After a while I started to recognize the virtues of the TII and III, particularly on long shots in daylight. Ambushing ASW vessels in daylight with the TI often results in a miss (they start weaving) and subsequent discovery. Problem with the early TII, as I have experienced it, is the numerous duds on impact fuze. Early in the war I have found the TI very reliable on short-distance (400-700 meters) magnetic fuze shots. On longer shots, however, they often go off prematurely. Particularly in rough seas. Which is a little strange as they are then set on a deeper running.

06-19-09, 04:06 PM	#12
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I used to be a TI fan. I never had any problem with my torps getting spotted before impact. However, recently I have switched to TIIs. The only reason being that, unlike with TIs, the destroyers don't always head straight for you after your torps impact. I still keep TIs in my aft tubes because most boats didn't have the heating equipment needed to launch battery powered torps from the aft tubes. __________________

06-19-09, 06:06 PM	#14
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I myself like the steamers. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"