Scary stuff on the right

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Yes, just like those nice gentlemen from the Black Panthers blocking, I mean, assisting votes in Philadephia

Oh so this is a white vs. black issue?

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by Max2147

But when your first impulse is to blame anything extremist at a protest on boogey man infiltrators, then it is very tin-hatted.

I suppose you may be right, even though I don't typically parallel being "tin-hatted" with something that is actually happening.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Oh so this is a white vs. black issue?

Not at all, there are nuts on both side is the point. Does not matter if they are black or white. I failed to mention these two blocking the booths were targeting Republicans. For some reason everyone thinks these acts of craziness are new or something. They are not. This crap has gone on for years. With all the bickering between left and right both will take anything and run with it like it is golden. Really, media hype, mountain out of a mole hole, pot boils over hype. Nothing more.

[AVGWarhawk]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...try_96999.html

In its obvious zeal to create a one-party state, the Democrat-Media Complex (the natural coalition of the Democratic Party and the mainstream media) last week seized upon the horrific murder of a security guard at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington as an opportunity to ascribe blame to the American conservative movement and to further marginalize the Republican Party.
In record time, the media's blind partisans and their feral friends in the left-wing blogosphere used the alleged "lone wolf" act of James W. von Brunn - an 88-year old self-avowed racist and anti-Semite - to try to affirm the controversial Department of Homeland Security (DHS) report that posited " right-wing extremists have capitalized on the election of the first African American president" and are a becoming a growing domestic terror threat.

While Mr. von Brunn is currently being made out to be the poster child of the Republican Party, even a cursory look at his professed views shows he is the avowed enemy of the GOP in its current incarnation. Among many others, Mr. von Brunn hates Rupert Murdoch, Fox News (that means you, too, Shep!), George W. Bush and John McCain. And according to the FBI, Mr. von Brunn even had in his vehicle the address of the Weekly Standard, home base of the dreaded "neo-cons."

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

With all the bickering between left and right both will take anything and run with it like it is golden.

With the exception that the right wing pretty much is the establishment and decides what the mainstream media runs with.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

With the exception that the right wing pretty much is the establishment and decides what the mainstream media runs with.

Please provide some sort of proof. Obama has the media in his hip pocket. In fact, he get free run of ABC or one of them to run another infomercial on his health care proposal. That is laughable the right wing decides what mainstream media runs.

Obama TV all the time

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23836.html

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Please provide some sort of proof. Obama has the media in his hip pocket. In fact, he get free run of ABC or one of them to run another infomercial on his health care proposal. That is laughable the right wing decides what mainstream media runs.

Obama TV all the time

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23836.html

Start with this. Yes, it's Wikipedia but it gives an idea about the forces behind mainstream media in the US and around the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concent...edia_ownership

The media block-out concerning the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan plus the media embedding program is still continuing. Remind me again what exactly you think has changed under Obama and remember that I'm not really interested in what US political pundits have said. I'm just interested in the body count.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Start with this. Yes, it's Wikipedia but it gives an idea about the forces behind mainstream media in the US and around the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concent...edia_ownership

The media block-out concerning the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan plus the media embedding program is still continuing. Remind me again what exactly you think has changed under Obama and remember that I'm not really interested in what US political pundits have said. I'm just interested in the body count.

Ok I read the first few paragraphs. It deals with media ownership. You mean to tell me your original post was about media ownership or what

decides what the mainstream media runs with.

Runs with what? I thought runs with what they want you to see. This they do. Refer to my Obama TV all the time article. This is what they want you to see. It has been that way since the campaign. As far as Iraq and Afghanistan, sure, it was blocked but Obama has kept Bushes policy in these regions and it is still blocked out. About all he said they could do is show the caskets arriving in Dover AFB. The media control started during the campaign and it has always favor Obama. Now it really favors Obama because it draws viewers.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by CastleBravo

The thread was started to minimize the folks on the right and you (I) fell for it. Stop feeding it and it will die. Just a thought.

I bowed out several posts ago not wanting to look a fool arguing with them.

[Max2147]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...try_96999.html

Where did I ever say the Republican Party was the problem?

The Republican Party is NOT the problem. The Republican Party and mainstream conservatives are the SOLUTION. That's what I've been trying to say all along! That's why I posted this here, a place frequented by a lot of sensible conservative people!

Us liberals can't fix the problem. Obama can't fix this problem. The ones who CAN fix this problem are sensible conservatives with BALLS. McCain showed us that he was one of them during the campaign, when he stood up in front of his supporters and defended Obama against accusations that he was a Muslim Arab (not that McCain's balls were ever in doubt). Shepard Smith also showed us that he had balls when he called out the far right on Fox News. We need more people like them.

[Max2147]

Originally Posted by CastleBravo

The thread was started to minimize the folks on the right and you (I) fell for it. Stop feeding it and it will die. Just a thought.

I started the thread as a warning and a call for action among the mainstream right, but you all seem content to blame your side's problems on ACORN.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Max2147

Where did I ever say the Republican Party was the problem?

The Republican Party is NOT the problem. The Republican Party and mainstream conservatives are the SOLUTION. That's what I've been trying to say all along! That's why I posted this here, a place frequented by a lot of sensible conservative people!

Us liberals can't fix the problem. Obama can't fix this problem. The ones who CAN fix this problem are sensible conservatives with BALLS. McCain showed us that he was one of them during the campaign, when he stood up in front of his supporters and defended Obama against accusations that he was a Muslim Arab (not that McCain's balls were ever in doubt). Shepard Smith also showed us that he had balls when he called out the far right on Fox News. We need more people like them.

All extreme righty understands is his rights and guns are being taken away. Sorry to say the Republicans/Conservatives are all grouped into 'the right'. Extreme or not does not matter. These extemists people simply refuse to listen.

The argument here is the way right are going nuts and carrying on with hateful acts because of Obama. Sorry to say this behavior has gone on for over 30 years. It does not matter Obama is in the White House. Abortion clinics are bombed, abortion doctors are killed, Ok City Fed Bldg destroyed under Democratic Presidents who were white. Truly, Obama has nothing to do with this. This type of behavior becomes more prominent when a Democratic President is elected. Nothing more. It is the media and DHS making a mountain out of a mole hill. It is the DHS saying returning vets are going to go crazy and start shooting up the place. It is sensationalism for ratings and a poke at the right.

[Max2147]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

The argument here is the way right are going nuts and carrying on with hateful acts because of Obama.

No. The argument here is that there has been a major increase in the far right going nuts.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Max2147

No. The argument here is that there has been a major increase in the far right going nuts.

I contest there is no more than what we have seen in the past. A few posts back, look at the statistics of abortion clinic attacks and or abortion clinic doctors/nurses assulted. Since the OK City bombing the extremists have been watched closely so this does not happen again. For the most part the FBI is able to keep tabs on these people. Everything brought to their attention is investigated. The people are on the web ranting and raving. They are busy explaining their plans. The increase I see is sensationalism by the media. The media handidly depicts the right as the cause, the O'Reilly's or Smiths causing this. Some attribute this becaus Obama is in the White House. Something to the effect of southerns and presidents from the south. Now one from the north. Come on, the shooting at the museum last week was done by a guy who lived in Annapolis MD from what I heard. Really, this party partisonship and parties working together is such smoke and mirrors. Anything each can dig up on the other and twist to their advantage is the game of the day.

[August]

Originally Posted by LoBlo

Common observation, life experience, and the professional opinion of the The United States Department of Homeland Security. http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf

Except that report, which was politically motivated and extremely controversial as I recall, doesn't actually say that the right wing is any more bigoted than the left wing, so we're pretty much down to your life experience I think.