Scary stuff on the right

[sunvalleyslim]

Right on August............Come on LoBlo.....I will agree to disagree, but show some facts for all us at periscope depth.......

[Max2147]

Originally Posted by CastleBravo

The tea parties show how upset the folks are with the political class in this country. I know many choise to criticize to forum. But many, including the Obama Administration saw it.

Tea parties and other peaceful events like those are fine. I don't agree with their ideas, some of the people who showed up were a bit nuts, and I sort of wonder where they were when Bush was turning our biggest ever surplus into a record deficit, but ultimately they make our political scene more vibrant and thus stronger.

What I'm worried about is what Smith and Rich were talking about - people believing that they have a responsibility to protect America by taking violent action against people and a President they see as a foreign outsider who's destroying their country.

[Max2147]

Originally Posted by August

You have any kind of proof at all to back up this outrageous statement?

I don't think it's that outrageous. He's not saying that everybody on the right is bigoted, just that most of the bigoted people (at least those racist against non-whites) are on the right.

There are bigoted people on the left too, although they tend to be minorities bigoted against whites or other minorities. But I think it's pretty safe to say that the majority of people who find Obama offensive solely because of his race/ethnicity/name/background are on the right.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Max2147

...But I think it's pretty safe to say that the majority of people who find Obama offensive solely because of his race/ethnicity/name/background are on the right.

I'd have to strongly disagree with that statement. Even our VP is racists and made racists comments about Obama prior to joining him! SOme of the strongest racists are demo's.

You are totally stereotyping.

-S

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

SOme of the strongest racists are demo's.

You are totally stereotyping.

-S

bwah

[nikimcbee]

not as scary as obama supporters:
http://www.theonion.com/content/vide...uses_obsessive

[LoBlo]

Originally Posted by August

You have any kind of proof at all to back up this outrageous statement?

Common observation, life experience, and the professional opinion of the The United States Department of Homeland Security. http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf

Originally Posted by CastleBravo

Ya know I'd be very wroried about the right in the US if it weren't for the left also making asses of themselves.

The ones on the left rarely resort to violence. Take for example the Bush-era. A time when the left could have resorted to violence and what was there? A couple of measly protests, that's all. I'd say the violent ones usually reside on the right, the Timothy McVeigh - types.

[SteamWake]

and part 2 of the plan comes to fruition.

Whats that part you ask?

It is to pit one side versus the other instead of working to a common goal.

[Max2147]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I'd have to strongly disagree with that statement. Even our VP is racists and made racists comments about Obama prior to joining him! SOme of the strongest racists are demo's.

You are totally stereotyping.

-S

Read my post again. I say right there that there are racists on the left. They exist, and man for man they're just as disgusting as the racists on the right.

However, the type of racist who would be offended by Obama solely because of his race/ethnicity/name/background is more likely to be on the right. There are some of them on the left too for sure, but numbers-wise they are more prevalent on the right.

That isn't to say that all those on the right or all those who dislike Obama are racist - I don't believe that. It's only a small minority of each. But they do exist, and to pretend that your side of the spectrum is completely clean is wrong and dangerous.

You can talk all you want about the radical left, but the fact remains that radical left activity has remained pretty constant since the small anti-globalization upswing in the late 90s. I don't think we've ever seen anything quite like the recent upswing in far right anger for a long time.

I'm also not saying that these people should have their rights or liberty taken away. In fact, I don't think it's up to liberals to stop these people, since they'll never listen to us. I think conservatives need to take a page out of McCain's book and do the honorable thing - grow some backbone, stand up to these dangerous idiots, and set them straight.

It's sort of like the problem we face with radical Islam. The US can't do much to convince radical Muslims to back down. The best way to deal with them is to get moderate Muslims to take a stand against the radicals. Similarly, we need sensible conservatives to stand up against the far right here in America.

[Max2147]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

and part 2 of the plan comes to fruition.

Whats that part you ask?

It is to pit one side versus the other instead of working to a common goal.

I think that protecting our country from violent extremists should be a common goal, whether those extremists are foreign or domestic. As far as I can tell, the far right is the only type of extremism that had seen a huge upswing in the past year or so.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Max2147

Tea parties and other peaceful events like those are fine. I don't agree with their ideas, some of the people who showed up were a bit nuts, and I sort of wonder where they were when Bush was turning our biggest ever surplus into a record deficit, but ultimately they make our political scene more vibrant and thus stronger.

What I'm worried about is what Smith and Rich were talking about - people believing that they have a responsibility to protect America by taking violent action against people and a President they see as a foreign outsider who's destroying their country.

You only had to go to your local tea tantrum...er...party for evidence of racism from the right.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

You only had to go to your local tea tantrum...er...party for evidence of racism from the right.

You do know that some of those were plants by ACORN right?

Not there arent nut jobs on both sides of the aisle but saying that only conservatives act in extreme manners is just wrong.

Greenpeace comes to mind.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

You do know that some of those were plants by ACORN right?

Sure. And all of my right wing friends who send me the same kind of garbage in emails are Acorn plants too, right?

[Max2147]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

You do know that some of those were plants by ACORN right?

Not there arent nut jobs on both sides of the aisle but saying that only conservatives act in extreme manners is just wrong.

Greenpeace comes to mind.

IT'S ALL ACORN'S FAULT!

So if some skinhead takes a shot at Obama, will he be a plant by ACORN too?