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Old 06-13-09, 08:12 AM   #1
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Thats what I thought, from what the BBC and the like have been saying is that the opposition had strong support. But if you look at the final poll its as if everyone hated him. I was really hopeful that these elections would bring a more moderate leader to Iran, and maybe start on mending ties with the western world... but it looks like the revolutionaries have done there bit to make sure that doesn't happen. I wonder what kind of signals this sends off to Washington?
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Old 06-13-09, 08:22 AM   #2
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Let's sit still, be a hole in the water and listen for a while. and most important: stay out of Iranian inner politics. Any interference whatever can only make things worse. Let them settle their affairs (but hold them responsible for their choices).

I perceived a split in Iran like the one I saw in Turkey. In the big cities, Mussawi probably was strong. But in the rural places, when I was there, nationalistic and clerical conservatives were the strong majority.

Although I see it from a perspective from the early to mid-90s. Things may have changed due to the isolation and the failed youth "rebellion" in the 90s (which brought both moderate and extremist young people to the streets of the cities). I haven't been there since then.

Anyway, the president should not be overestimated anyway, for this simple reason:


"Waiting for the new president"
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Old 06-13-09, 08:40 AM   #3
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Waiting for a new president :rotfl:

The Mullah's run the show anyhow.

The election is a sham.
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Old 06-13-09, 09:00 AM   #4
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I see no reason to suspect vote rigging.
As SB rightly said, Mussawi may have had a core in the affluent new thinkers
in the cities-modern, but in rural areas and the city-old there hasn't been
much change since the last election. Why should there have been?

If the news here made the Mussawi support look big, it is only because
Ahmadinejad supporters arn't news anymore.
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Old 06-13-09, 09:12 AM   #5
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If this election was rigged, I doubt it would be by Ahmadinejad, but rather by the Mullah's.

They obviously have a tight grip on the reigns of power and find it much easier to mould and control Ahmadinejad in their ways than they would have been able to with Mussawi.
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The Mullah's run the show anyhow.
Don't forget the "beloved" Ayatollah.
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Don't forget the "beloved" Ayatollah.
He is one of the Mullah's.

Mullah is " an educated Muslim trained in religious law and doctrine and usually holding an official post "
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Still though...four more years with this guy?!
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Still though...four more years with this guy?!
At least it wont me the same old. Now he's gonna have nukes.
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He is one of the Mullah's.
Somewhat true, but he's basically above your average member in terms of authority because he's seen as one of the most distinguished members (due in part to several reasons, including extreme devotion to the Moslem faith, an expert amount of knowledge on the Qur'an, and also having passed and proven himself worthy through a few tests).

Think of him as their version of a really high ranking cardinal. He's not exactly like a pope, however, since he's not a Grand Ayatollah. That would go to Khamenei (he's the supreme Iranian leader).
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20090614...t-a7ad41d.html

Some more information on the election, by jamming foreign media aren't they basically confessing their guilt in their actions? Isn't it against some sort of treaty to jam civilian satellites?
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