External Reserve Torpedoes

Sub Sailor · 06-09-09, 06:43 PM

How dot, or can you, transfer the two reserve fish to internal tubes? I tried to find it in Sh3 and SH3 Commandeer manuals.

Captain Birdseye · 06-09-09, 06:48 PM

Just drag them over

Make sure you have enough crew in the relevant compartments to transfer though!

There was discussion on when this would be realistically done a few weeks ago if you want to search

Sheldon · 06-09-09, 07:13 PM

Press the I key to open up your ammunition allocation screen. The default should be your torpedoes and another tab on that screen is for your cannon/AA.

On that screen you need to drag the external torpedo over your internal reserve area (not the actual firing tube area). It takes time. If you speed up time and mouse-over the external reserve, you will see how long it will take for the move. As Captain Birdseye says, make sure you have enough crew in the aft or fore torpedo room (whichever is appropriate) so it goes faster.

The real question is: why can't we use an external aft torpedo to replenish internal fore torpedoes? How would the torpedo know what direction it will fire? That makes me crazy.

Sub Sailor · 06-09-09, 07:29 PM

I appreciate the help.
I read where the Germans would float fish between resupply subs. I don't ever remember reading that the aft reserve fish was moved fwd or vice versus. I supppose it is possible but would take a long time.

Thanks again,

Ron Banks MMCM(SS), USN(Ret)

Captain Birdseye · 06-09-09, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheldon

The real question is: why can't we use an external aft torpedo to replenish internal fore torpedoes? How would the torpedo know what direction it will fire? That makes me crazy.

The pure logistics of it deem it nigh on impossible. When you take into consideration the weight and size of a single torpedo, and the space to 'swing' the torpedo on the U-Boat, it can't be done.

FUBAR295 · 06-09-09, 09:34 PM

The animation shows how the torpedoes where brought inside the Uboot.

http://www.u-boote-online.de/waffen/...ocation=uboote

Good Hunting,
FUBAR295

Vipper · 06-10-09, 03:26 AM

Lol, when i had same problem then i figured out that i can't do it underwater...

Leandros · 06-10-09, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sub Sailor

How dot, or can you, transfer the two reserve fish to internal tubes? I tried to find it in Sh3 and SH3 Commandeer manuals.

I believe it is also necessary to have some torpedo crews in the fwd torpedo room even when you transfer the aft ones.....

Sub Sailor · 06-10-09, 08:15 AM

Great animation FUBAR. Looks like the rigging that I saw in pictures. As far as it can't be done, after 25 years in the Navy most of it on Subs, Sailors always find a way to do it. I believe that holds true for sailors in all navies.

Ron Banks MMCM(SS), USN(Ret)

Sailor Steve · 06-10-09, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Birdseye

The pure logistics of it deem it nigh on impossible. When you take into consideration the weight and size of a single torpedo, and the space to 'swing' the torpedo on the U-Boat, it can't be done.

Yes, it could. They could do it the same way they transferred torpedoes from the supply subs - using inflatable rafts. Could, but as far as I know didn't, because it would take an extra hour at least. Dangerous work in in dangerous waters.

Jimbuna · 06-10-09, 11:53 AM

sharkbit · 06-10-09, 12:01 PM

Cool pictures jimbuna.

That looks like a lot of dangerous work, even without the threat of attack. I'm sure the last thing anyone wanted to hear was "Aircraft spotted!"

I do recall that while Suhren's U-564 was transfering the torpedoes shown in those photos, the last one went to the bottom when the air in the life jackets they were using had slowly leaked and finally couldn't support the eel and down she went.

Bent Periscope · 06-10-09, 01:26 PM

Great animation & photos.

Now I have an idea how this was done and why it takes so long.

BP

Kapt Z · 06-11-09, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkbit

Cool pictures jimbuna.

That looks like a lot of dangerous work, even without the threat of attack. I'm sure the last thing anyone wanted to hear was "Aircraft spotted!"

I do recall that while Suhren's U-564 was transfering the torpedoes shown in those photos, the last one went to the bottom when the air in the life jackets they were using had slowly leaked and finally couldn't support the eel and down she went.

I'm sure it wasn't a quick job either. As I remember Suhren did this mid-Atlantic 1942 where there wasn't Allied air cover yet.

I don't use the external reloads 'in game' unless-

1) I'm out of range of aircraft patrols.
2) The weather is perfect=clear skies, dead calm seas, daylight or full moon night.
3) Engines stopped.
4) I have enough fuel to make continuing the patrol worth it.

jmr · 06-11-09, 12:29 PM

Wow, Jim, what book are those photos from?

I wonder how common external torpedo loading was in the Atlantic from mid '43 onward.

06-09-09, 06:43 PM	#1
Sub Sailor Commander Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Orofino, Idaho Posts: 443 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	External Reserve Torpedoes How dot, or can you, transfer the two reserve fish to internal tubes? I tried to find it in Sh3 and SH3 Commandeer manuals.

06-09-09, 07:29 PM	#4
Sub Sailor Commander Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Orofino, Idaho Posts: 443 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	Thanks I appreciate the help. I read where the Germans would float fish between resupply subs. I don't ever remember reading that the aft reserve fish was moved fwd or vice versus. I supppose it is possible but would take a long time. Thanks again, Ron Banks MMCM(SS), USN(Ret)

06-09-09, 09:34 PM	#6
FUBAR295 Krusty Krab Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Decks awash in the North Atlantic Posts: 1,450 Downloads: 493 Uploads: 0	The animation shows how the torpedoes where brought inside the Uboot. http://www.u-boote-online.de/waffen/...ocation=uboote Good Hunting, FUBAR295 __________________ Good judgment comes from experience. Unfortunately, the experience usually comes from bad judgment.

06-10-09, 08:15 AM	#9
Sub Sailor Commander Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Orofino, Idaho Posts: 443 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	Great Great animation FUBAR. Looks like the rigging that I saw in pictures. As far as it can't be done, after 25 years in the Navy most of it on Subs, Sailors always find a way to do it. I believe that holds true for sailors in all navies. Ron Banks MMCM(SS), USN(Ret)

06-10-09, 11:53 AM	#11
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,523 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	__________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

06-09-09, 06:48 PM	#2
Captain Birdseye Watch Officer Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sat behind my desk at BdU tapping away on my Enigma machine. Posts: 339 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Just drag them over Make sure you have enough crew in the relevant compartments to transfer though! There was discussion on when this would be realistically done a few weeks ago if you want to search

06-09-09, 07:13 PM	#3
Sheldon Watch Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 19 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Press the I key to open up your ammunition allocation screen. The default should be your torpedoes and another tab on that screen is for your cannon/AA. On that screen you need to drag the external torpedo over your internal reserve area (not the actual firing tube area). It takes time. If you speed up time and mouse-over the external reserve, you will see how long it will take for the move. As Captain Birdseye says, make sure you have enough crew in the aft or fore torpedo room (whichever is appropriate) so it goes faster. The real question is: why can't we use an external aft torpedo to replenish internal fore torpedoes? How would the torpedo know what direction it will fire? That makes me crazy.

06-10-09, 03:26 AM	#7
Vipper Machinist's Mate Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 122 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Lol, when i had same problem then i figured out that i can't do it underwater...

06-10-09, 12:01 PM	#12
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	Cool pictures jimbuna. That looks like a lot of dangerous work, even without the threat of attack. I'm sure the last thing anyone wanted to hear was "Aircraft spotted!" I do recall that while Suhren's U-564 was transfering the torpedoes shown in those photos, the last one went to the bottom when the air in the life jackets they were using had slowly leaked and finally couldn't support the eel and down she went. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

06-10-09, 01:26 PM	#13
Bent Periscope Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Dry docks of Los Angeles, CA Posts: 250 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Great animation & photos. Now I have an idea how this was done and why it takes so long. BP

06-11-09, 12:29 PM	#15
jmr Commander Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 462 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Wow, Jim, what book are those photos from? I wonder how common external torpedo loading was in the Atlantic from mid '43 onward.