From BDU to all IX UBoats - orders to make for N.Korea immediately

[Packerton]

In relation to the story posted a bit earlier in the thread about U 234, was there not a U boat that was also carrying something to Japan, that was torpedoed by a British Submarine? one of the only sub to sub torpedo victorys ever recorded? or did I just imagine that.

[Paul Riley]

I saw a doc. about something like that.A german UBoat was going,somewhere,unaware it was being shadowed by a British sub.They managed to plot the UBoat's course completely blind,setting themselves up for a 3 stage attack,with something like a few minutes between shots (I think).The UBoat immediately picked up the first incoming torpedo,ordered a steep dive,causing the torpedo to pass over the top,again,they heard another,same again,and a 3rd,which slammed into the UBoat destroying it.

I forget what was on board the UBoat,or where they were going.I think it is a different story than the Japanese cargo mentioned before,and I may be wrong.

[Paul Riley]

Just to let you know,N.Korea have in fact launched another short range BM today,making that their 6th in a week!,not to mention their underground atomic bomb test at the beginning of the week.S.Korean forces have been sent to garrison the border between the two states,in case hostilities break out.

Really,its getting out of control,and I think its only a matter of time before somebody gets nuked

[Paul_IronCoffin]

I agree Paul. Moreover, I agree with that excellent military history author Max Hastings, who said yesterday that the N.Korean leader was "quite mad, by any measure of the term".

[Paul Riley]

Yes,quite mad,and a worthy candidate for the firing squad too

[Paul Riley]

Hey Paul,
I bet the weather is nice in Barbados tonight hehe,I can just imagine a periscope sailing past as you sleep under a palm tree with the setting sun
Do you live there,or just on holiday?

[Leandros]

Originally Posted by Paul_IronCoffin

I agree Paul. Moreover, I agree with that excellent military history author Max Hastings, who said yesterday that the N.Korean leader was "quite mad, by any measure of the term".

Stratfor - a defense analyst bureau - has a somewhat different conclusion. Here is an extract of a recent article:

Kim Jong Il undoubtedly ranks very high among the world’s most idiosyncratic world leaders. But he has deftly transferred and consolidated control over a country that was run by a single individual, his father, for nearly 50 years. By balancing various groups and interests, he has both maintained internal control and loyalty and kept the attention of some of the world’s most powerful countries focused on North Korea for more than 15 years. Indeed, he has overseen the allocation of resources necessary to build both crude intercontinental ballistic missiles and crude nuclear devices while faced with crushing international sanctions. This is the track record of a competent (if annoying) leader, not a crazy one.

If Kim was merely suicidal, he has had the artillery, artillery rockets and short-range ballistic missiles at hand to destroy Seoul and invite a new Korean War since before his father died — a choice that would be far quicker, cheaper and even more complete than the prototype nuclear devices that North Korea has so far demonstrated. Rather, his actions have consistently shown that his foremost goal has been the survival of his regime. Indeed, he has actually curtailed much of the more aggressive activity that occurred during his father’s reign, such as attempting to assassinate South Korea’s president.

While Kim’s actions may seem unstable (and, indeed, they are designed to seem that way in order to induce an element of uncertainty at the negotiating table), Pyongyang regularly uses ballistic missile tests and even its nuclear tests as part of a larger strategy to not only keep itself relevant, but to ensure regime survival.

[Paul Riley]

I just hate bloody communists,bolsheviks,lefties,and liberals,and would love to nerve gas the lot of em! thats my take on the whole affair.Thats without getting too political here,after all,this so called notion of diplomacy calls for the freedom of speech (yeah right,just come and live in Britain)

All the above mentioned groups are the reason this world is f###ed,there is no order or strength left,just pansies jumping on the band wagon all the time. (god they make my skin crawl)

Sorry if that has shocked anyone,but its just my view on the world.

[Leandros]

Originally Posted by Paul Riley

I just hate bloody communists,bolsheviks,lefties,and liberals,and would love to nerve gas the lot of em! thats my take on the whole affair.Thats without getting too political here,after all,this so called notion of diplomacy calls for the freedom of speech (yeah right,just come and live in Britain)

All the above mentioned groups are the reason this world is f###ed,there is no order or strength left,just pansies jumping on the band wagon all the time. (god they make my skin crawl)

Sorry if that has shocked anyone,but its just my view on the world.

So, you are obviously living in the wrong times..........

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Packerton

In relation to the story posted a bit earlier in the thread about U 234, was there not a U boat that was also carrying something to Japan, that was torpedoed by a British Submarine? one of the only sub to sub torpedo victorys ever recorded? or did I just imagine that.

http://militaryhistory.about.com/od/...enturer864.htm