Lil Kim Jong Il is playing with his toys again

[baggygreen]

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574...-23109,00.html

How will barry react to this?

[Task Force]

Those north koreans sure like there missiles.

[Zachstar]

Airstrikes are needed... Enough is Enough. This is already looking to be more powerful blast than the last test.

We have tried EVERY tool at our disposal to peacefully convince them this is wrong. How many tons of food shipped that could have gone to nations that give a damn?

North Korea is a threat now in my view. Diplomacy has failed and now airstrikes need to start in my view in order to reduce their nuke ability. And their ability to research.

[rubenandthejets]

If the "big stick" was a remotely viable option, wouldn't GW "Im a war president" Bush jumped at it?

I agree, bribing the North Koreans hasn't worked.

Pressuring / bribing the Chinese to pressure the North Koreans is about the only option available.

[JALU3]

Send a WARNO to the DRB at Fort Bragg, just in case.
Watch, and wait

Don't give an consessions to Pyongyang
Ask the PRC to restrict what little trade crosses the Yalu
Tell Pyongyang via some neutral go between (Swiss maybe) that they aren't getting nothing from no body, and if they think they are, that they are fooling themselves
Oh, and freeze what offshore accounts the DPRK has, that you can

[Dowly]

*Yawn*

[McBeck]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Airstrikes are needed... Enough is Enough. This is already looking to be more powerful blast than the last test.

We have tried EVERY tool at our disposal to peacefully convince them this is wrong. How many tons of food shipped that could have gone to nations that give a damn?

North Korea is a threat now in my view. Diplomacy has failed and now airstrikes need to start in my view in order to reduce their nuke ability. And their ability to research.

Are they a threat just because they have nukes?

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by McBeck

Are they a threat just because they have nukes?

EXACTLY!

[GoldenRivet]

i say let them alone.

let them have their nukes... once they use a single nuke - their world will end swiftly

[Respenus]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

i say let them alone.

let them have their nukes... once they use a single nuke - their world will end swiftly

And ours as well.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Respenus

And ours as well.

not necessarily.

Lets say they launch one and manage to hit LA. or Hawaii

the death toll will be massive, we lose lots of life and a city.

North Korea on the other hand will cease to exist... they lose everything and their entire land mass becomes uninhabitable for decades.

[Fincuan]

I wouldn't be that worried they'd hit the US. South Korea is much closer, and even without nukes NK has the world's largest artillery forces. Seoul is nicely within range from the border.

[Respenus]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

not necessarily.

Lets say they launch one and manage to hit LA. or Hawaii

the death toll will be massive, we lose lots of life and a city.

North Korea on the other hand will cease to exist... they lose everything and their entire land mass becomes uninhabitable for decades.

First of all, do you really believe that the moment the USA launches its missiles, the Russians, Chinese, Indians all the remainder and the lot who have declared or undeclared nuclear weapons will not launch missile of their own? Do you think Russia will call the USA and ask what is going on? There is a bloody good reasons why no nukes were used after the second world war. Their is no limitation to their use or their effect.

Which brings me to my second point. Let us hypothetically say that the USA obliterates North Korea from the face of the Earth and there is no outside retaliation, what do you think happens to all the radiation? It won't stay confined to the borders of North Korea. No, you'll have an irradiated world, with Russia, China, South Korea, Oceania proper and others suffering from massive radiation poisoning or the land, air, water and people. If they haven't retaliated until now, they will now, as they will search for new land on which to live.

So, launching a nuclear weapon is not as simple as it might appear.

[Oberon]

Hmmm, so this one actually detonated properly then.
Well, that's a start, now they just have to develop a reliable missile to launch it with

[Raptor1]

The DPRK is, at this point, technologically advanced enough to destroy itself and no-one else effectively...