Demjanjuk being deported to face trial in Germany. - Page 2

05-22-09, 07:56 AM

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I found it rather amusing though that on two different websites they had these very conflicting quotes lol

I like this line from the second

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Demjanjuk was never a Nazi. Nazis were Germans

Are they attempting to rewrite history?

Dan D · 05-22-09, 08:22 AM

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Ironically, a few years ago, Germany passed a law setting a time limitation on the prosecution of German war criminals. Thus Germans, who were primarily the ones responsible for the death camps, cannot be prosecuted, but individuals from other countries, like Demjanjuk, can!

Source: http://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/op_ed/41895

Those are both just people's opinions... but is it true that law was passed in Germany?

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Well, it is true, of course. What have you thought?

Some necessary adjustments have been made in the past.

Constitution:
Article 3 [Equality before the law]
old version:
"(1) All persons shall be equal before the law.
...
(3) No person shall be favored or disfavored because of sex, parentage, race, language, homeland and origin, faith, or religious or political opinions.
No person shall be disfavored because of disability".

A subsection (4) has been added:

“(4) Non-Germans are not “persons” in the sense of this law.

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Civil Code:
“Section 1: The legal capacity of a human being begins on the completion of birth.”

It now reads in section 1a:
"Section 1 does not apply to non-Germans who will be given a special status defined by Sondergesetze."
As a consequence, the German Civil code as a whole does no longer apply to foreign nationals.

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and finally: Criminal Code

Section 78, subsection 2:
"Serious criminal offenses under Section 220a (genocide) and Section 211 (murder) are not subject to a statute of limitations,
“unless committed by Germans” (added).

Skybird · 05-22-09, 02:47 PM

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...626281,00.html

Spiegel said their article has hit a nerve, obviously. They give a collection of reader's comments.

mr chris · 05-22-09, 02:59 PM

Hey if he committed the crime he should do the time. That he is 89 years of age should have bugger all to do about it.
Though i believe it will be hard to bring evidence to bear that will stand up in a court of law so many years after the War.

kranz · 05-22-09, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

They give a collection of reader's comments.

"Jaroslaw Kaczynski and his party's media outlets in no way represent "Polish" opinion. Indeed, opinion polls consistently show Kaczynski to be one of the most unpopular politicians in the country. Yes, he has a strong base of about 30 percent, but his extremism has ensured that the remainder of the population views him with hostility (and often derision)." by Brian Porter-Szucs
My favourite one. The guy sits an 8 hour flight from poland and is gosu brainiac of Polish political scene. There was no recent opinion poll giving him or PiS 30% so dunno where the f... he got it from.Nvm. Btw-I'm positively surprised by the variety of comments presented by Spiegel.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,717 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	http://www.spiegel.de/international/...626281,00.html Spiegel said their article has hit a nerve, obviously. They give a collection of reader's comments. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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mr chris Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herefordshire, England Posts: 3,562 Downloads: 216 Uploads: 0	Hey if he committed the crime he should do the time. That he is 89 years of age should have bugger all to do about it. Though i believe it will be hard to bring evidence to bear that will stand up in a court of law so many years after the War. __________________ Last edited by mr chris; 05-22-09 at 04:53 PM.

05-22-09, 08:22 AM	#17
Dan D Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: 9th Flotilla Posts: 839 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Quote: Ironically, a few years ago, Germany passed a law setting a time limitation on the prosecution of German war criminals. Thus Germans, who were primarily the ones responsible for the death camps, cannot be prosecuted, but individuals from other countries, like Demjanjuk, can! Source: http://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/op_ed/41895 Those are both just people's opinions... but is it true that law was passed in Germany? ---------------------------------- Well, it is true, of course. What have you thought? Some necessary adjustments have been made in the past. Constitution: Article 3 [Equality before the law] old version: "(1) All persons shall be equal before the law. ... (3) No person shall be favored or disfavored because of sex, parentage, race, language, homeland and origin, faith, or religious or political opinions. No person shall be disfavored because of disability". A subsection (4) has been added: “(4) Non-Germans are not “persons” in the sense of this law. ++++ Civil Code: “Section 1: The legal capacity of a human being begins on the completion of birth.” It now reads in section 1a: "Section 1 does not apply to non-Germans who will be given a special status defined by Sondergesetze." As a consequence, the German Civil code as a whole does no longer apply to foreign nationals. ++++ and finally: Criminal Code Section 78, subsection 2: "Serious criminal offenses under Section 220a (genocide) and Section 211 (murder) are not subject to a statute of limitations, “unless committed by Germans” (added).