Star Trek Movie Not To Be Missed

[Onkel Neal]

They just announced the name of the sequel!



The Search for Spock's Mom

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

They just announced the name of the sequel!



The Search for Spock's Mom

You Fail...

[Rhodes]

Originally Posted by jumpy

I thoroughly enjoyed this latest Trek film. It was a bit loud though... damn cinemas.

However, I heartily approve of the green skinned lass: http://www.mtv.com/photos/star-trek-...28/photo.jhtml

Hummmm, Orion girls are always hot

[Steel_Tomb]

Wonder if we'll see Kahn again somewhere? Hehe... imagine Wrath of Kahn with modern CGI... would be awesome.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Peto

Acting in General rates a B. However, non-direction of characters stunted the potential character developement.

Special Effects also get a B. They were good but nothing ground-breaking.

Story (what story?) gets a D: Was there even a Director for this movie? It felt like a few mini-stories loosely thrown together.

Continuing Transition from Star Trek as Science Fiction to Star Trek the Fantasy gets a serious F-: In the old Star Treks they used to at least acknowledge science. They ignore it completely in this film (Spock shows Scottie Scottie's invention? What a slap in the face to Scottie's original character!) A Kid on his 1st voyage gets to be Captain? Too unbelievable, too ludicrous to be tangible. The movie was actually kind of boring to me after that. Especially when Uhura fell in love with Spock because she pitied him . That's seriously shallow even to an aging Rock musician.

My Final Grade: C/C- I enjoyed the trailer for the 2nd release of The Transformers as much as I enjoyed the whole ST movie. The best thing for me about seeing it for $5 in the theater is now I can wait for it to hit the clearance bins at Walmart before wasting money on a BlueRay Edition.

I would agree with your critique.

I don't know about the Transformer comment but then I did not like the first Transformer movie. But I think you are spot on concerning Star Trek. It could have been much better.

I think the actor who played Spock gets an A+
I think the writer who wrote Spock's part gets an F

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Originally Posted by Steel_Tomb

Wonder if we'll see Kahn again somewhere? Hehe... imagine Wrath of Kahn with modern CGI... would be awesome.

I hope not. Ricardo Montalban cannot be replaced as Khan.

[JALU3]

...Star Trek Movie

- A single drop of red matter can destroy a sun or a planet, and create a black hole through time and space no one can escape from. A whole beach ball of it can destroy a starship and create a black hole, easily escaped from with a few explosions. Maybe a shipload of it would have created a pretty firework.

- There is no need for an universal translator, as the entire universe has learned to speak flawless English. Either that, or the universal translator has not been programmed to cope with russian accent.

- Cheating an exam and illegally boarding a starship is okay if you can subsequently identify a trap, and it will get you an acting first officer rank. Some nerds just bother themselves with graduating from Starfleet Academy and serving some time as enseigns...

- Nokia phones are still used in the 23rd century and still use the same ringtone. They probably have changed their motto to "Connecting lifeforms", though.

- When dealing with an unruly crewmember, drop him on the nearest monster-infested planet. If he survives, he can then be made captain. This is Starfleet implementation of Darwin theories.

- Vulcans being portrayed as self-righteous and intolerant jerks is completely okay, as long as it happens in a story Braga and Bermann had nothing to do with.

- Lighting storms are the telltale sign of a Romulan trap. And all this time we were fussing about detecting cloaking devices and scanning subspace transmissions...

- The destruction of a single ship is enough to alter the timeline so that 25 years later people invented transporters with a light-year range, made contact with the Romulans and Cardassians, and could reach Vulcan in a few hours at warp 4. Maybe Starfleet should implement destroying a few starships from time to time as a policy in order to jumpstart its development.

- There is no sound in space. Someone finally told them.

- Forget the holodeck, the Enterprise is now outfitted with a giant waterslide in engineering. Now we know how Scotty used the time he gained by exaggerating his repair times.

And here are ten more:

- Exposition is always better when the person giving it is an attractive female who just happens to be undressing at the same time.

- Star Trek is now just like D&D - all adventures begin in a tavern after the obligatory barroom brawl. This movie even had random encounters and a dungeon crawl.

- If you are going to cheat on an exam you might as well violate the "no eating in the simulator" rule while you're at it.

- If your homeworld is about to be destroyed you apparently need to rescue all the old people who probably can't have kids to save your civilization, because it's the logical thing to do.

- In the future old people aren't allowed on starships, they just get in the way.

- At Starfleet Academy it is completely acceptable for a cadet to have a relationship with an instructor, but don't even think about messing with that instructor's simulation or you are in for a world of trouble.

- If you bring a sword you will always get a chance to use it, but if you bring a phaser it probably is going to get knocked from your hand.

- To promote better linguistic skills among the crew in Starfleet you have the guy whose accent the computer can't recognize do the ship wide announcements with critical instructions for the crew.

- Don't wait till after the birth of your child to pick a name. You never know if you might be rushed into a bad decision by an attack by disgruntled miners from the future.

- Never, never try to get an emotional reaction from the halfbreed, because there's a reason he's trying to hold it together. If you do get a reaction, then get ready for your face to be rearranged into a bloody smear.

[Peto]

^^^^^^ That's a perfect summary!!! ^^^^^^

[Peto]

Originally Posted by Platapus

I don't know about the Transformer comment but then I did not like the first Transformer movie.

My reference is to a movie that doesn't claim to be any more than a Special Effects Party (Transformers) compared to Star Trek's claim of being something more than that.

Originally Posted by Platapus

I think the actor who played Spock gets an A+
I think the writer who wrote Spock's part gets an F

Agreed! Thay had the right players for the parts. They just didn't write for them imaginatively IMO.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by JALU3

...Star Trek Movie



And here are ten more:

Where did you get these. They are great

[Peto]

Originally Posted by Steel_Tomb

Wonder if we'll see Kahn again somewhere? Hehe... imagine Wrath of Kahn with modern CGI... would be awesome.

I agree with your obvious high regard of The Wrath of Khan !!!

But: It was the story that made that episode Great, not the special effects. Special effects should support a story, not the other way around IMHO. Hence my disappointment in the latest movie....

[Steel_Tomb]

ST:WoK is my fave Star Trek film. Like you said, the story was key to its success... but I'm a real sucker for those battle scenes, so I would think it would be awesome with modern graphics to see what it would be like. Saying that, for the 1982 (was it 82?) when it came out the effects were still pretty awesome. I liked the bit where Reliant is just adrift in front of Enterprise, with sparks flying from the destroyed warp nacelle and the holes in its hull. Great stuff .

I loved the new film, it brought a breath of fresh air into the franchise. Which in my opinion can only do it good. Some people may not like the new film so much, but its new found popularity amongst previously non-trekies might boost Star Treks popularity as a whole. I've seen all the Star Trek films before, but it wasn't until I saw the new one last week I thought out watching them again. Two days later I bought the box set of all of the original films... and watched every one in two days lol . Just finished watching The Undiscovered Country a few hours ago. I had to laugh at the end with Spock's reaction to their recall to spacedock for "decomissioning", I quote:

"If I were Human, I believe my response would be... GO TO HELL"

Everyone has their opinion on the new film, personally I loved it... can't wait for the sequals. Hopefully once the franchise becomes solid again we might start to see more repeats of TOS or TNG .

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

They just announced the name of the sequel!



The Search for Spock's Mom

Wow
Great Idea,
Lets forward a Story script
Good to know Star Trek is
in a lotta hearts

[TLAM Strike]

Thoughts on Star Trek XI

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Good Things
The Vasquez Rocks site of the infamous battle between Kirk and the Gorn show up on Vulcan.
No/limited sound in space in a few sequences. Well done!

A poor crew member gets sucked out in to hard vacuum during the opening battle. Stargate, Battlestar, Enterprise, and Firefly did it already but points for trying to be original.

Explains the reason why you need to be stationary while beaming.

The redshirt during the HaLo jump. You can just sense something bad is coming.

The explanation Spock gives about how time travel creates parallel universe is spot on with the currently accepted theory on that subject.


Bad things
Product placement for Nokia and Coors beer.

Sean Pegg (Mr. Scott) and the actor that played Mr. Chekov weren't that good. Plus those characters tended to be used just as comic relief. In addition Scotty doesn't show up till the movie is over half over.

The new engineering was too industrial looking. It looked like a water treatment plant rather than a ship's engine room.

Engineering and the Shuttle bay were too massive looking. High ceilings with lots of catwalks along with seemingly no compartmentalization have to make damage control impossible... pfft Star Fleet engineers...

When the Romulan ship dangles the drill down to Vulcan its at a much lower orbit than would be required for a geostationary orbit. In reality that drill would be cutting a swath of destruction across the planet. Unless of course Vulcan rotates at a massively slower rate than Earth which is unlikely since IIRC Vulcan is seismically active according the TMP.

Speaking of the Romulan Ship what is with Sci Fi ships and big pits of doom?

Bones doesn't say his other signature line, but on the flip side the movie just seems to reuse old lines as in-jokes.

That three foot tall alien that hangs out with Scotty. Yea he really advances the plot... Did he even have a line?

Nurse Chapel had a thing for Spock in TOS but in the movie its Uhura. Speaking of Chapel she only get a mention and never shows up. While there isn't a hint that Yeoman Rand is aboard. Same with some of the other well known secondary characters like Mr. Kyle and LT. Relly.

The common heritage between the Romulans and Vulcans is now well known. Well that just spits on one of the best TOS episodes.

I miss the analog buttons on the panels. A lot of the signature Enterprise controls are gone. The Anti-Glare shield that Spock always looked in to for the sensors readings is gone. The pop up targeting computer Sulu used for aiming the phasers and photos is gone. The hand grips the crew hand to turn to make the turbolifts go are absent. I'm sorry this new ship just doesn't feel like our beloved NCC 1701 (no bloody A,B,C,D,E, or G).

Time travel though black holes. By them selves not possible, according to Einstein you need to put a wormhole in th event horizon of a black hole and even them you can only travel back in time to the point which that is done.

The Warp Drive nacelles have afterburners. I'm all for Newtonian Physics but come on! Engines that WARP space need to produce thrust too?

“Red Matter”, well its RED and its some kind of MATTER oh and a tiny drop creates black holes. Why did the Vulcans in the future create this and put it on their fastest ship? Hmmmm sounds like a first strike weapon to me!



Oh and finaly and someone here had a problem with the moon of Vulcan not being pulled in to the blackhole that was created with the planet. This is infact accurate. Since no matter is created or destroyed in any reaction the blackhole simply is all the matter of Vulcan compressed in to a much smaller area. The gravity would remain the same.

[Onkel Neal]

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