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Old 05-16-09, 02:25 PM   #16
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civil rights isnt a russian strong point il admit that.
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Old 05-16-09, 03:06 PM   #17
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Eurovision should be renamed to

"Glorious Eventings for the Betterment of Eastern European Nations by way of Backhanded Votings"
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Old 05-16-09, 03:14 PM   #18
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Eurovision should be renamed to

"Glorious Eventings for the Betterment of Eastern European Nations by way of Backhanded Votings"
Why that long? "Lack of taste". Period.
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Old 05-16-09, 03:36 PM   #19
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It is a play on the movie "Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan".

At least, I think it is.
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Gee - whats wrong with a people protecting their cultural and theological views? Oh that's right - its ok as long as it would be persecuting some real undersirables - like Jews or Judeao-Xtians. But taking a stand against homosexuals? That has to be held to the light and ridiculed. Lets make fun of the mayor of Moscow for having a view that isnt gay-friendly.

Lets say this is just a further example of russian human rights violations. Lets blame it on their culture - oh wait - better yet - lets blame it on their religion! Yea thats it - religion is always to blame!



The facts are that most societies throughout the world do not approve of homosexuality. There are cultural, religious, health and common sense reasons. It wouldn't be nearly the issue it is - whether in Russia, America or elsewhere - if some of those who are gay were not doing exactly what is listed above - parading what they do in the bedroom in front of everyone and then demanding it be "respected".

I don't approve of homosexuality - I make no apology for that. But as long as you don't make it my business, I don't care what you do in the privacy of your own home. Because it doesn't matter whether I approve or not - because I ain't IN your bedroom. You and another consenting adult do whatever you want. Because while I don't care for what you do - I respect your right to do it in PRIVATE.

Stop trying to MAKE me accept what you do - and then it wouldn't be an issue. Or at least - it would be alot less of one.
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I think I will move to Russia and find a nice round Russian woman who will cook rabbits for for me.....
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Old 05-17-09, 07:25 AM   #23
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Eurovision should be renamed to

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It might have been more entertaining last night if a great many had boycotted it :rotfl:
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It might have been more entertaining last night if a great many had boycotted it :rotfl:


But what about the cash prize monies?
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Whuh-huh? Where are the muslims?
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Pie charts are much less fun when they are 100% correct.
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Oh really?

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I stand corrected, well played, sir!
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The facts are that most societies throughout the world do not approve of homosexuality. There are cultural, religious, health and common sense reasons. It wouldn't be nearly the issue it is - whether in Russia, America or elsewhere - if some of those who are gay were not doing exactly what is listed above - parading what they do in the bedroom in front of everyone and then demanding it be "respected".

I don't approve of homosexuality - I make no apology for that. But as long as you don't make it my business, I don't care what you do in the privacy of your own home. Because it doesn't matter whether I approve or not - because I ain't IN your bedroom. You and another consenting adult do whatever you want. Because while I don't care for what you do - I respect your right to do it in PRIVATE.

Stop trying to MAKE me accept what you do - and then it wouldn't be an issue. Or at least - it would be alot less of one.
Hmmm, where to start. No one can make you accept anything but the inevitable, unless it's your wife. The catholic church attempted to make all people catholics. Even going so far as torture (water boarding for one) during the inquisitions. That is why it's called catholic and it didn't work.
ETYMOLOGY:
Middle English catholik, universally accepted, from Old French catholique, from Latin catholicus, universal, from Greek katholikos, from katholou, in general : kat-, kata-, down, along, according to ; see cata- + holou (from neuter genitive of holos, whole; see sol- in Indo-European roots)

More seriously, I think revulsion or intolerance of homosexuals, or physical and mental defects, is an instinctual part of the human animal. They have no direct survival value and would be shunned by the tribe. Mix in centuries of development and voila, a cultural norm.

Many will gather from that statement that I am a non religious man. well I am religious when I swear by God!

Let me modify the quote here.
"I don't approve of (a woman's right to be seen in public without a burka) - I make no apology for that. But as long as you don't make it my business, I don't care what you do in the privacy of your own home. Because it doesn't matter whether I approve or not - because I ain't IN your bedroom. You and another consenting adult do whatever you want. Because while I don't care for what you do - I respect your right to do it in PRIVATE".

See what you can do with statements like this? I'm not trying to argue with CaptainHaplo, he just left a convenient statement to use here. Obviously, a free for all can't work, but drawn lines in the sand do tend to get washed away when the tide comes in.

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