Same-sex marriage in Sweden/Gays in military

Henry Wood · 05-06-09, 04:29 PM

I came across this thread by I don't know how ????

I'll be honest, I never followed all of the back-and-forward arguments 'cos I heard them all before over many, many years.

All I would say is, I am now exceedingly old and I am gay. I am coming towards the end of my life and whoever thinks this way of life is a "choice" is an ignoramus of the 1st degree. Does any single person who has a single brain cell imagine for one moment that at the age of 12 (for that is when I realised I was gay) at the age of 12 I said: "Oh, I want to be gay!" I could no more choose to be not gay than anyone else could decide how to live their life. All that happened is I realised I was attracted to the male of the species and not the female. It was no big deal, even in those days. I accepted it, except of course, I knew I most certainly had to keep it to myself. That came naturally. I could not discuss it with my parents, nor with my two brothers, nor my two sisters, and certainly not with any of my friends from those days.

I went to sea. I then had to be even more careful that I never, ever exhibited any "tendencies" and I must have been succesful as I did manage to rise to some degree of authority. I have never forgotten how powerless that authority really was when I received a signal from shore saying a certain junior officer had to be placed under arrest and to await the arrival of the "authorities" who would remove him from my ship.

His crime?

His flat had been broken into... His neighbours had informed the police... The police had entered the premises to "secure it"...

During their "securing" of the premises they happened to come across some copies of a magazine called "Gay Times". The investigating officer felt obliged to mention this to the naval authorities when he was asking them to inform the junior officer that his flat had been burgled.

I have never felt so helpless, nor so physically sick in my life at being unable to help that young man. I regret it to this day and it weighs heavy on me.

At the same time, to finish up, it is my own opinion that such things as gay adoption should not happen. Children are cruel. They pick on the "outsider". Apart from that, facts show that gay relationships do not last when compared to hetero relationships and the number of succesful relationships of all kinds is rapidly decreasing year on year.

Yes, I am gay.

No, I do not agree with "official gay marriages" and the like. In my day it was realised we were different, and we are! Why kid ourselves to want to be the same as *them*? We have never been the same as them from the very instant we accepted to ourselves just what we are. I put all of this present pressure for "acceptance/equality" down to bandwagon jumpers who are following the feminists' route. (Still, it seems to have done them alright, look at what Harriet HarPerson plans to do next in the UK with her "equality" laws.)

And as for "gay adoption" - definitely not! Think of the children!

All in all, I personally think the UK is buggered for want of a better word, but your mileage may vary.

05-06-09, 04:29 PM	#12
Henry Wood Sparky Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Posts: 150 Downloads: 57 Uploads: 0	I came across this thread by I don't know how ???? I'll be honest, I never followed all of the back-and-forward arguments 'cos I heard them all before over many, many years. All I would say is, I am now exceedingly old and I am gay. I am coming towards the end of my life and whoever thinks this way of life is a "choice" is an ignoramus of the 1st degree. Does any single person who has a single brain cell imagine for one moment that at the age of 12 (for that is when I realised I was gay) at the age of 12 I said: "Oh, I want to be gay!" I could no more choose to be not gay than anyone else could decide how to live their life. All that happened is I realised I was attracted to the male of the species and not the female. It was no big deal, even in those days. I accepted it, except of course, I knew I most certainly had to keep it to myself. That came naturally. I could not discuss it with my parents, nor with my two brothers, nor my two sisters, and certainly not with any of my friends from those days. I went to sea. I then had to be even more careful that I never, ever exhibited any "tendencies" and I must have been succesful as I did manage to rise to some degree of authority. I have never forgotten how powerless that authority really was when I received a signal from shore saying a certain junior officer had to be placed under arrest and to await the arrival of the "authorities" who would remove him from my ship. His crime? His flat had been broken into... His neighbours had informed the police... The police had entered the premises to "secure it"... During their "securing" of the premises they happened to come across some copies of a magazine called "Gay Times". The investigating officer felt obliged to mention this to the naval authorities when he was asking them to inform the junior officer that his flat had been burgled. I have never felt so helpless, nor so physically sick in my life at being unable to help that young man. I regret it to this day and it weighs heavy on me. At the same time, to finish up, it is my own opinion that such things as gay adoption should not happen. Children are cruel. They pick on the "outsider". Apart from that, facts show that gay relationships do not last when compared to hetero relationships and the number of succesful relationships of all kinds is rapidly decreasing year on year. Yes, I am gay. No, I do not agree with "official gay marriages" and the like. In my day it was realised we were different, and we are! Why kid ourselves to want to be the same as them? We have never been the same as them from the very instant we accepted to ourselves just what we are. I put all of this present pressure for "acceptance/equality" down to bandwagon jumpers who are following the feminists' route. (Still, it seems to have done them alright, look at what Harriet HarPerson plans to do next in the UK with her "equality" laws.) And as for "gay adoption" - definitely not! Think of the children! All in all, I personally think the UK is buggered for want of a better word, but your mileage may vary.