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Old 05-05-09, 12:07 PM   #1
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I dont know, would be hard to be much worse though.

I thing your views on foriegn relations are a tad un-informed.
So were Obama's and Clinton's. Sniper fire!!!!!!! Run!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-05-09, 12:16 PM   #2
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You know, disbanding welfare and especially the dropping of Israel like a hot potatoe amounts to political suicide... If you can sell it, good on you, but I think you wouldn't get elected, unless you plan to decieve your voters (like so much other politicians). And even then, who would vote for your proposed changes in Senate and Congress?
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Old 05-05-09, 12:22 PM   #3
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I guess some don't realize how BIG the border really is.....
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Old 05-05-09, 03:15 PM   #4
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Whoa I never said anything about dropping Isreal, Paying for Isreal is another thing. I doubt sincerly that joe public has any clue if and how much we are spending on Isreal. In this time of finacial crises I think its time to realise that Isreal is a big boy...all grown up, Time to get a job and stop living off of USA's allowance. Isreal has by far the strongest military in the region and a decent economy, Why in the hell should we subsodize their high standards of living while americans are losing homes and jobs?

And also I said that Welfare was being dropped to those who could work.
Peoplewho work for there money do far better in society than people who dont. Ever been to some of the highest welfare per capita city's....Crime drugs and gangs. People who work have more pride in themselves and less time for crime, Drugs and Gangs.

The border issue is easy. Communist Eastern europe had one of the largest borders around yet less people got thru there in 50 years than got thru ours in a day!

Cant do worse you say eh? Okay well lets just spend our way to bigger issues then and collapse under our own debt like were doing. Ill be Amazed if there is still any semblance of a nation in 50 years the way were going....call me paranoid but I smell civil war when all collapses
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Old 05-05-09, 05:53 PM   #5
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You didn't say anything about taxes, illegal immigration, or motorcycle tracks.
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The key here is some ideas have some merit - though each has its own problems.

The problem is - as president you cannot just go around closing this and that and making this new program and that new program instead. Nor can you close a few doors and shift funding.

Congress controls the purse strings of the Federal Government. So pretty much anything you would want to do - goes through them. Good luck on the ATF, HS or anything else - because those all boost special interest money into the politicians re-election campaigns.

The office of POTUS is best used as a bully pulpit to accomplish things. Historically - speaking in the "modern" era where communication is instant and widespread, that has been how it has been most effectively used.

Want to get things accomplished - you have to be able to convince the people that this is important enough for them to raise the roof calling their LOCAL representatives. Only in that way can you exert any real leverage over congress.
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