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Old 05-02-09, 11:10 AM   #1
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They give trophies to all the kids for two reasons

1. It keeps the kids motivated to stay on the team

2. It keeps the parents motivated to continue paying.

If the kid loses interest, the money stops coming in
If the parents lose interest, the money stops coming in

The trophies are just a financial investment.
I don't think it is socially any deeper than that.

Follow the money
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Old 05-02-09, 12:40 PM   #2
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They give trophies to all the kids for two reasons

1. It keeps the kids motivated to stay on the team

2. It keeps the parents motivated to continue paying.

If the kid loses interest, the money stops coming in
If the parents lose interest, the money stops coming in

The trophies are just a financial investment.
I don't think it is socially any deeper than that.

Follow the money

I think you've nailed the reason but I think Frame is talking more about the unintended effect.
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Old 05-02-09, 12:50 PM   #3
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I think the goal is to breed a new type of super-soldier who demands a medal for throwing down his rifle and fleeing at the sight of the enemy.

"Hey! At least I showed up didn't I?"
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Old 05-02-09, 02:24 PM   #4
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when i played little league football, you got a little wooden plaque for participating.

if you made it through playoffs and placed in the division you got trophies of various sizes depending on whether or not you placed 2nd 3rd etc

if you won a bowl game, you got a t-shirt, a HUGE trophy with the names of all the team members on it, and each player on the team got a series of ribbons - each ribbon stating the position they played which came looped around the trophy.

its called incentive - a kid has to want to do better

this trophies to everyone BS raises kids to believe that no matter how poorly or how majestically they perform the level of reward will be equal.

like it or not, this BS sticks with little kids until they become adults.

its pathetic
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Old 05-02-09, 03:41 PM   #5
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when i played little league football, you got a little wooden plaque for participating.

if you made it through playoffs and placed in the division you got trophies of various sizes depending on whether or not you placed 2nd 3rd etc

if you won a bowl game, you got a t-shirt, a HUGE trophy with the names of all the team members on it, and each player on the team got a series of ribbons - each ribbon stating the position they played which came looped around the trophy.

its called incentive - a kid has to want to do better

this trophies to everyone BS raises kids to believe that no matter how poorly or how majestically they perform the level of reward will be equal.

like it or not, this BS sticks with little kids until they become adults.

its pathetic
So all the kids get the same trophy?

I dont mind seeing kids get rewarded for participating. I dont see equal reward accross the board. Sorry kid, maybe a spelling bee is for you
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So all the kids get the same trophy?

I dont mind seeing kids get rewarded for participating. I dont see equal reward accross the board. Sorry kid, maybe a spelling bee is for you



Now there's a sport with equal reward across the board
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Old 05-02-09, 03:57 PM   #7
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So all the kids get the same trophy?

I dont mind seeing kids get rewarded for participating. I dont see equal reward accross the board. Sorry kid, maybe a spelling bee is for you
The team gets the huge trophy.

the kids get a smaller trophy based on what position they played.

losers get a piece of wood to hang on the wall that basically says they at lease played.
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The team gets the huge trophy.

the kids get a smaller trophy based on what position they played.

losers get a piece of wood to hang on the wall that basically says they at lease played.
We had small trophies for the champs, paperweights for the runners up and everyone got a picture of themselves in a baseball card pose. Uniforms belonged to the Insurance agency that was our team sponsor. At the end of the season they collected them back up to reissue to next years team.

Oh, we did get to keep the hat iirc.
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Old 05-02-09, 04:40 PM   #9
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If kids are only motivated by a trophy/trinket at the end of the year, then they've got bigger problems than everybody getting the same trophy. Kids should play sports because they're fun and healthy.

I played hockey when I was a kid, and I was awful at it. But I have some wonderful memories of it - mostly from playing on teams that were so bad that we didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning. We only won a couple games a year, we never got trophies or medals or anything like that, but we got some good exercise and had a heck of a lot of fun.
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