SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > General > General Topics
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-01-09, 07:22 AM   #1
danlisa
Navy Seal
 
danlisa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cornwall, UK
Posts: 5,499
Downloads: 45
Uploads: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TDK1044 View Post
....we just don't have a vaccine for it yet.....Ignorance of the facts is much more dangerous than this variant of the swine flu.
That is why the huge media hype and mass hysteria is occurring. We have no protection against this current strain and this is also why the WHO is classing this as a potential pandemic.

Apart from the lack of vaccine, this flu strain is no different to any serious cold or flu that any of us can and do contract.

What I want to know is what the Mexicans were doing the their pigs to get this strain to jump species. Considering it can only pass to different species through breath, saliva and faeces and will only remain viralant for up to 4 mins when exposed to air.
__________________
danlisa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-09, 08:59 AM   #2
Torplexed
Let's Sink Sumptin' !
 
Torplexed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 5,823
Downloads: 43
Uploads: 0


Default

I'm not sure which is scarier. The closing of a local school, or the fact that the officials at that local school seem to lack some elementary spelling and grammar skills. Maybe the kids are better off at home.

Torplexed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-09, 09:27 AM   #3
SteamWake
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 13,224
Downloads: 5
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by danlisa View Post
That is why the huge media hype and mass hysteria is occurring. We have no protection against this current strain and this is also why the WHO is classing this as a potential pandemic.

Apart from the lack of vaccine, this flu strain is no different to any serious cold or flu that any of us can and do contract.

What I want to know is what the Mexicans were doing the their pigs to get this strain to jump species. Considering it can only pass to different species through breath, saliva and faeces and will only remain viralant for up to 4 mins when exposed to air.
Strange, I just heard on the news that the virus does respond to current vaccines and 'tamaflu' which are being shipped out to the states as we speak.

Stunning amount of mis-information, hysteria, and hyperbole.
__________________
Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648
SteamWake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-09, 09:36 AM   #4
danlisa
Navy Seal
 
danlisa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cornwall, UK
Posts: 5,499
Downloads: 45
Uploads: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SteamWake View Post
Strange, I just heard on the news that the virus does respond to current vaccines and 'tamaflu' which are being shipped out to the states as we speak.
Nope, Tamaflu attacks and reduces the effects of the illness within the body of the individual, giving that person a better chance of recovery. It does not attack or kill the virus itself. Therefore, a person being treated is still contagious, which is why they are being isolated.

According to the director of UK GP's on GMTV this morning.

I agree though, every media resource should be reading from the same script. They do nothing but panic the public.
__________________
danlisa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-09, 10:18 AM   #5
Jimbuna
Chief of the Boat
 
Jimbuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 250 metres below the surface
Posts: 190,561
Downloads: 63
Uploads: 13


Default

Here is an extract from an all points email circulated by my employers HQ yesterday:

You may have heard this afternoon that a case of swine flu has been confirmed in Newcastle. The person involved has returned from a visit to Mexico. It is important to remember that
Apart from in Mexico, all those infected with the virus have experienced mild symptoms and made a full recovery.

Testing has shown that human swine influenza H1N1 can be treated with two anti-viral drugs called Tamiflu® and Relenza®. Tamiflu is proving effective and people who received the anti-virals early are recovering.

The World Health Organisation has stated that the United Kingdom and France are the best prepared countries in the world.
__________________
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.
Oh my God, not again!!

Jimbuna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-09, 10:30 AM   #6
danlisa
Navy Seal
 
danlisa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cornwall, UK
Posts: 5,499
Downloads: 45
Uploads: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbuna View Post
Testing has shown that human swine influenza H1N1 can be treated with two anti-viral drugs called Tamiflu® and Relenza®. Tamiflu is proving effective and people who received the anti-virals early are recovering.
Nice bit of info there.

Although I really wish everyone were more specific when reporting or issuing details.

Both those anti-viral drugs listed in Jims post are used to subdue the virus' effects on the individuals immune system so the the infected persons body can defeat the virus. Like I said before, and just like every other case of flu virus, there is no drug or medicine that will kill the H1N1 (or other flu strains) virus outright.

What do you all think the Flu Jab is? It's a mild strain of influenza injected directly into your system so that your immune system is prepared and has the antibodies to battle it.

Unfortunately, the media calm the ill informed public but at the same time infuriate the informed with misinformation.
__________________
danlisa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-09, 11:08 AM   #7
Jimbuna
Chief of the Boat
 
Jimbuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 250 metres below the surface
Posts: 190,561
Downloads: 63
Uploads: 13


Default

Quote:
What do you all think the Flu Jab is? It's a mild strain of influenza injected directly into your system so that your immune system is prepared and has the antibodies to battle it.
Too true Dan....I've always found it odd why so many people end up bed-ridden after receiving the jab but admit they have it done every year
__________________
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.
Oh my God, not again!!

Jimbuna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-09, 11:17 AM   #8
TDK1044
Ocean Warrior
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Georgia, USA
Posts: 2,674
Downloads: 25
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbuna View Post
The World Health Organisation has stated that the United Kingdom and France are the best prepared countries in the world.
That statement would worry me greatly if I lived there.
TDK1044 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-09, 11:49 AM   #9
Jimbuna
Chief of the Boat
 
Jimbuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 250 metres below the surface
Posts: 190,561
Downloads: 63
Uploads: 13


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TDK1044 View Post
That statement would worry me greatly if I lived there.
Naa....I think we'll let the French do the worrying bit
__________________
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.
Oh my God, not again!!

Jimbuna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-09, 12:20 PM   #10
FIREWALL
Eternal Patrol
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA
Posts: 10,108
Downloads: 511
Uploads: 0
Default

I'm going to live dangerously. I'm going to go eat dinner tonite at my favorite Mexican Restaurant.
__________________
RIP FIREWALL

I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???
FIREWALL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-09, 10:27 AM   #11
Max2147
Seasoned Skipper
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 714
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by danlisa View Post
Apart from the lack of vaccine, this flu strain is no different to any serious cold or flu that any of us can and do contract.
Not necessarily. There are some signs to show that this strain is similar to the 1918 Spanish flu, which was definitely NOT your average influenza. But there's not enough data on that right now.
Max2147 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:41 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.