The fall of Europe as we know it.

Originally Posted by trekchu

What in the blazes are you on about? How does anything you have said have something to do with concentration camps?

Note: No one denies it has happened. It most likely will not happen again in Europe.

Also, have you ever thought that maybe perhaps Europeans might not go into your "camps" like sheep? Perhaps no one has told you, but countries outside of the US also have organized militaries.

Are you reading with your eyes or like, using the force like Luke Skywalker? I'm talking about US concentration/extermination camps, as a German I'm sure you know what I mean when I talk about concentration camps, work camps and extermination camps. They are different things, you know.

And as much as I'd like to believe that European militaries have any kind of significance in the future, I am very sceptical that they will. It's just Finns and Greeks who have any real type of militaries based on a proper conscription, the rest of Europe has already chickened out.Through NATO US is able to give orders to any European nation that belongs to it. Already European NATO-countries are losing soldiers in the disastrous debacle that the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are.

[Thomen]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Are you reading with your eyes or like, using the force like Luke Skywalker? I'm talking about US concentration/extermination camps, as a German I'm sure you know what I mean when I talk about concentration camps, works camps and extermination camps. They are different things, you know.

What are you saying? THEY are after me?

[Thomen]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

And as much as I'd like to believe that European militaries have any kind of significance in the future, I am very sceptical that they will. It's just Finns and Greeks who have any real type of militaries based on a proper conscription, the rest of Europe has already chickened out.

You are aware that conscripts are more reluctant to fight than lets say volunteer armies, especially in modern warfare where it gets more and more expansive to train and maintain standing armies?

You might consider the Finnish Defense Forces proper armed forces, but unfortunately, and no disrespect to our resident Finns, you can't do much with just 37,000 active soldiers and 350,000 reservists in modern warfare (if you are being invaded that is). Unless you plan to use them all up in Guerrilla Warfare where you basically can say 'good bye' to all your heavy weapons and hope that your enemies get fed up with this before you run out of men.

[Max2147]

Well, if the US wanted to take over Europe and put all its citizens in concentration camps, I suppose we might be able to do it. But....

WHY THE ******* WOULD WE WANT TO?!?!?!?!?

I mean, the US could invade Mexico tomorrow and exterminate its entire population. We could wipe out Australia with nukes. We could take over Uzbekistan, paint every one of their citizens green, and force them to dance the polka while making silly faces. But that doesn't mean we're about to do any of those things. It just makes absolutely zero sense whatsoever.

[rubenandthejets]

The US could try to nuke Australia...but there is an awful lot of country to cover. Besides, who would happily go off and die in their silly wars if the Australians weren' around to mindlessly and unquestioningly jump on the US bandwagon?

The Canadians?

[August]

Originally Posted by Max2147

Well, if the US wanted to take over Europe and put all its citizens in concentration camps, I suppose we might be able to do it. But....

WHY THE ******* WOULD WE WANT TO?!?!?!?!?

I mean, the US could invade Mexico tomorrow and exterminate its entire population. We could wipe out Australia with nukes. We could take over Uzbekistan, paint every one of their citizens green, and force them to dance the polka while making silly faces. But that doesn't mean we're about to do any of those things. It just makes absolutely zero sense whatsoever.

You don't understand Max. Herring thinks we're doing all that stuff right now!

[Max2147]

Originally Posted by August

You don't understand Max. Herring thinks we're doing all that stuff right now!

Where can I go see the green Uzbeks? This is exciting!

Europeans have already been held on US camps without trial, jury or lawyer and been tortured there. How many such camps are out there in the world? Do you know exactly? These camps are just the "1.0 version", there will be a "2.0 version".

There is a long tradition of US using torture and also 'outsourcing' the use of torture, everyone knows this. Executions have also occured, either directly by US or by it's mercenaries.

Germans must feel pretty bad now that their great country has been reduced to a minion of USA in NATO. One would think that they'd be tired of taking orders from entities outside their own nation. But hey, maybe it's just that German slave mentality that Nietzche spoke about.

[HunterICX]

Someone took a O.D in paranoia pills.

HunterICX

[trekchu]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Germans must feel pretty bad now that their great country has been reduced to a minion of USA in NATO. One would think that they'd be tired of taking orders from entities outside their own nation. But hey, maybe it's just that German slave mentality that Nietzche spoke about.

WHAT THE *BlEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP* *BLEEEEEP* *BLEEEEEEP*?

Minions eh, so why didn't these minions send their troops to Iraq?

[trekchu]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Are you reading with your eyes or like, using the force like Luke Skywalker? I'm talking about US concentration/extermination camps, as a German I'm sure you know what I mean when I talk about concentration camps, work camps and extermination camps. They are different things, you know.

And as much as I'd like to believe that European militaries have any kind of significance in the future, I am very sceptical that they will. It's just Finns and Greeks who have any real type of militaries based on a proper conscription, the rest of Europe has already chickened out.Through NATO US is able to give orders to any European nation that belongs to it. Already European NATO-countries are losing soldiers in the disastrous debacle that the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are.

*forces himself to be polite*
Why yes, I do know the difference. As for insignificant and losses, US losses in Afghanistan would be even higher than they are now if our boys weren't there. Besides, in case you are even reading this: The US don't have conscription either! ( Yes, I know that it is just not used since the 70s ). Also, Germany still has it too.

EDIT: Further reading

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Originally Posted by trekchu

*forces himself to be polite*

Thanks.


Herring, caaalm yourself.