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Old 04-25-09, 10:18 AM   #16
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Well here is a hint...Gore is a stuffed shirt retired VP. He is about as qualified as me in global warming matters. Yet, most here have thrown Monckton under the bus and for what, an opinion. If that is the case, both Gore and Monckton are nothing but opinions looking to debate.
Lets put it this way. The people in this forum are not arguing the facts but are instead only basing their opinion on if he should be heard or not on where he stands on the issue. This is typical liberal hypocrisy. Hypocrites and they probably don't even realize they are doing it. That's pretty sad.

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Old 04-25-09, 01:25 PM   #17
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As opposed to typical conservative hypocrisy? As oppose to typical steamwake/subman hypocrisy? Give me a frikkin break, would you lads? Your both the joint kings of completely ignoring threads in which your theories or statements get completely blown out of the water. So please, spare us. Get outside a little. I promise you'll like it out there.
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I agree. Lets start hurling insults at those who believe in God!
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Old 04-25-09, 01:56 PM   #18
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I agree. Lets start hurling insults at those who believe in God!
Why? Is God trying to play politics with climate change?
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Nope that is just about one of the few things people seemed to not have abused the bible for in politics. Yet

No need to throw insults at those who believe in god but those who commit sin by using the bible in politics and as a religious uncle sam deserve plenty of insults in my view.
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Lets put it this way. The people in this forum are not arguing the facts but are instead only basing their opinion on if he should be heard or not on where he stands on the issue.
Is it a fact that when Monckton put his paper to scientists to consider they found a huge pile of basic factual errors in his work ?

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This being the typical definition of liberal used by subman which is a very liberal use of the word liberal covering just about everything in the world apart from himself and his crazy conspiracy theories
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Nope that is just about one of the few things people seemed to not have abused the bible for in politics. Yet

No need to throw insults at those who believe in god but those who commit sin by using the bible in politics and as a religious uncle sam deserve plenty of insults in my view.
Of course, God could have prevented the whole thing in the first place with GW... I mean, he is the supreme being of the universe and has unlimited power, right?
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Of course, God could have prevented the whole thing in the first place with GW... I mean, he is the supreme being of the universe and has unlimited power, right?
Of course he could. Problem is now, that would be free will to you now wouldn't it? He has to let us fall ourselves so that we understand. You seem to be doing a good job of it yourself.

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Of course he could. Problem is now, that would be free will to you now wouldn't it?
Now there you have a good point.
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Is Gore a scientist? What qualifies Gore then?
The fact he invented the Internet.
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Of course he could. Problem is now, that would be free will to you now wouldn't it?

Now there you have a good point.
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Of course he could. Problem is now, that would be free will to you now wouldn't it? He has to let us fall ourselves so that we understand. You seem to be doing a good job of it yourself.
Then again, if you want loyal subjects in the first place (as this "supreme" fellow intended according to the Bible), then you wouldn't bother with free will. But then again, that wouldn't be any fun. The Devil would be out of a job, you'd have no ants to play with, and the universe would be pretty damn boring... for you, anyway.

Wait- I believe I might be mistaken. You must have been talking about Odin and his posse, right?
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Hey it's not Gods fault that you prefer a big brother nanny state that wipes your nose for you.
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Hey it's not Gods fault that you prefer a big brother nanny state that wipes your nose for you.
But isn't God the one who supposedly makes us who we are, each and everyone, individualistic?

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The whole point of the GW debate became clear to me several years ago, when a British politician said they couldn't wait any longer and they had to raise taxes right now to fight it.

So raising taxes will stop climate change? so if I give BO all of my money, he will guarantee the weather will be nice for my vacation?


...which leads me to another point. If part of the problem is overpopulation, why are we trying so hard to make sure everyone has health care, end war, end disease, stop genocide, end famine, blah, blah, blah.

It's all about power and money.
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But isn't God the one who supposedly makes us who we are, each and everyone, individualistic?
Partly right. God makes us, but we decide who we'll be. That's called freedom and that is Gods gift to us.
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