Gov. Rick Perry: Texas Could Secede, Leave Union

[Onkel Neal]

Oh lord, be serious. Texas ain't seceding. Mexico won't allow it.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Oh lord, be serious. Texas ain't seceding. Mexico won't allow it.

And you know they have all the guns to stop you! They keep saying it on the news or something.

-S

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by Subman1

My country's falling apart. Thanks, Obama.

That's not really fair to say. Obama's role in all this hasn't even become material yet. The only thing he has done really done thus far is to sponsor a budget that will inevitably bring serious economic difficulties.

if Civil War were to break out, the South has all the weapons this time.

And a very healthy share of industry, commerce, and population. Of course, the split might not be strictly along the old lines, though it might be close. The North's vast superiority in material resources was arguably the deciding factor in the Civil War.

The only solution to our problems would be either 5 presidents so none could continue to screw up our country single handedly, or a third party to come to power. Nothing else will save us. We are in a downward spiral.

I can't tell if this is a joke or not.

[August]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

Of course, the split might not be strictly along the old lines, though it might be close.

I don't think so. We're a lot more intermixed and mobile than we were in 1860. I think the next civil war, if it happens, will be fought in every neighborhood and street.

[Max2147]

Meh, a healthy percentage of Texans always favor secession, no matter who the President is. That's just the way Texas is.

Vermont is similar - they've always got some sort of secession movement going on up there.

Anyways, if the South seceded tomorrow along the Civil War lines, I'm not sure the North would be too inclined to fight. The Jesusland joke after the 2004 election was taken somewhat seriously in some circles.

[GoldenRivet]

Personally, i would have absolutely no problem with Texas splitting away from the Socialist Republic of America

[August]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Personally, i would have absolutely no problem with Texas splitting away from the Socialist Republic of America

As an American I would.

[Marinesko]

Texas, please go. Don't teach evolution in your schools, ban anything but Fox News, and put student-led prayer in the schools. Let businessmen run wild, and privatize to your hearts' content. Enjoy your neo-feudal existence.

Polarization problem solved.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

That's not really fair to say. Obama's role in all this hasn't even become material yet. The only thing he has done really done thus far is to sponsor a budget that will inevitably bring serious economic difficulties.

This is completely fair, and it almost looks like you haven't been reading the news. This guy has done more damage in 4 months than most presidents can in 4 years!

His Trillions he is dumping has finally put us in debt to a point that has exceeded WWII levels as compared to GDP for the first time ever and probably are impossible to pull out of! The US Government is probably already bankrupt at this point and all our savings are worthless, just that we aren't aware yet. You got your change he was preaching alright, you just haven't seen the full effect yet.

And a very healthy share of industry, commerce, and population. Of course, the split might not be strictly along the old lines, though it might be close. The North's vast superiority in material resources was arguably the deciding factor in the Civil War.

What alarms me is the number of people wanting to succeed. We need to stay whole, but it is obvious that we are not one country at this point.

I can't tell if this is a joke or not.

That is no joke.

[mookiemookie]

Hah...I love how everyone is speaking for me, a Texan, in this thread.

[Onkel Neal]

Come back in a few days and they will utterly characterize you (Texans) and all your habits with precision you won't believe

[AVGWarhawk]

Ya,all chew backy and carry six shooters...no

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

This is completely fair, and it almost looks like you haven't been reading the news. This guy has done more damage in 4 months than most presidents can in 4 years!

I don't even really disagree with you. I'm just saying that, in all fairness, the Democratic legislature is equally, if not more to blame (and even some Republicans), and Obama hasn't really damaged much yet.
Once the economy is asked to actually absorb the effects of the "stimulus", most of which has not yet been implemented, things will really start to fall apart.

That is no joke.

Not even the "5 presidents" part? Well, in any case I think you are partially correct about the 3rd party part. Historically, though, when third parties begin to gain influence, the main parties shift paradigms to incorporate them and they disappear. I doubt one will come to power, but they might be able to shift mainline party policy significantly.

Originally Posted by August

I don't think so. We're a lot more intermixed and mobile than we were in 1860.

That is true, but the nation is still pretty clearly divided along economic-policy lines. It could very well be a case of red states versus blue states, though, as you mention, there will indubitably be cases of localized conflict, whatever happens.

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

That is true, but the nation is still pretty clearly divided along economic-policy lines. It could very well be a case of red states versus blue states, though, as you mention, there will indubitably be cases of localized conflict, whatever happens.

Im one of those that support Huntingtons wiews that it is the cultural differences and boundaries that will result in conflicts. Within US the only clear boundary still goes between the North and South.
California could be defined a Latin culture tough.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

This guy has done more damage in 4 months than most presidents can in 4 years!

His Trillions he is dumping has finally put us in debt to a point that has exceeded WWII levels as compared to GDP for the first time ever and probably are impossible to pull out of! The US Government is probably already bankrupt at this point and all our savings are worthless, just that we aren't aware yet. You got your change he was preaching alright, you just haven't seen the full effect yet.

It's funny. When liberals point to record debts under a Republican president, the first thing the hardcore conservatives scream is "It takes years for these things to have an effect! It's all the last guy's fault!"

A sentiment with which I agree, by the way. In every case. And in this case how much money has actually been spent yet? Or borrowed?

It's funny how the wind blows in different directions depending, not on who's in office, but on how he is percieved by people who claim to have no bias.