PELOSI: 'We Want Registration'; HOLDER: 2nd Amendment won't stand in the way'

SUBMAN1 · 04-11-09, 02:51 PM

NEWS RELEASE

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PELOSI: 'WE WANT REGISTRATION'; HOLDER: 2A WON'T 'STAND IN THE WAY'; SAF: 'GLOVES ARE OFF'

For Immediate Release: 4/8/2009

BELLEVUE, WA – Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on April 7 acknowledged that gun registration is on her agenda, days after Attorney General Eric Holder told reporters in Mexico that the Second Amendment would not “stand in the way” of administration plans to crack down on alleged gun trafficking to Mexico.

“These are alarming remarks from Speaker Pelosi and Attorney General Holder,” said Second Amendment Foundation founder Alan Gottlieb. “It appears that the Obama administration and Capitol Hill anti-gunners have dropped all pretense about their plans for gun owners’ rights, and it looks like the gloves are coming off.”

Pelosi’s revelation came during an interview on ABC’s Good Morning, America. While insisting that Congress “never denied” the gun rights of American Citizens, Pelosi told Roberts, “We want them registered. We don’t want them crossing state lines” Gottlieb noted that citizens’ rights do not stop at state lines.

“But that doesn’t really matter,” he observed. “History has shown that around the world, registration has always led to confiscation.”

In Mexico, according to the Wall Street Journal, Holder was asked if the administration might encounter constitutional issues as it tries to crack down on alleged gun trafficking. His response: “I don’t think our Second Amendment will stand in the way of efforts we have begun and will expand upon.”

“These comments belie administration promises and Democrat rhetoric that party leaders respect the rights of law-abiding Americans to own the firearm of their choice,” Gottlieb said. “They imposed registration of semi-autos in Pelosi’s California and it led to a ban, but it certainly didn’t disarm criminals, like the convicted felon who killed four Oakland police officers last month. We know from Holder that the Obama administration wants to renew the nationwide ban on such firearms, but that won’t prevent crime, either.

“The administration and Congressional anti-gunners have declared war on gun rights,” Gottlieb said. “The press seems deliberately blind to the statements from Pelosi and Holder, who blame our gun rights for their incompetence in dealing with crime. More than 90 million gun owners haven’t hurt anybody, and they are tired of being treated like criminals.”

The Second Amendment Foundation (www.saf.org) is the nations oldest and largest tax-exempt education, research, publishing and legal action group focusing on the Constitutional right and heritage to privately own and possess firearms. Founded in 1974, The Foundation has grown to more than 600,000 members and supporters and conducts many programs designed to better inform the public about the consequences of gun control. SAF has previously funded successful firearms-related suits against the cities of Los Angeles; New Haven, CT; and San Francisco on behalf of American gun owners, a lawsuit against the cities suing gun makers and an amicus brief and fund for the Emerson case holding the Second Amendment as an individual right.

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UnderseaLcpl · 04-11-09, 03:20 PM

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I don’t think our Second Amendment will stand in the way of efforts we have begun and will expand upon.

Oh, really? Pelosi and Holder can go to hell and take their laws with them. I ain't registering s***.

Platapus · 04-11-09, 04:16 PM

Well this is why we have a congress with 535 people and a supreme court so that one or two people's personal agenda is nothing to worry about.

Now if 51 members of the Senate and 218 members of the House tell me they have this same agenda, then I will start getting a little worried.

Even then it will have to get past the Supreme Court which seems to take the constitution pretty seriously.

One person in congress spouting their personal agenda? Not even newsworthy.

SteamWake · 04-11-09, 06:09 PM

must be a weekend

party on lib's !

Frame57 · 04-11-09, 08:30 PM

Will somebody please tell the speaker of the house that her place is in the kitchen.....Get me another beer winch or wench or whatever the hell you are

UnderseaLcpl · 04-11-09, 08:35 PM

Well, that's bound to piss someone off

I disagree with your "wench" platform, but I am strongly supportive of your "beer" platform

Frame57 · 04-11-09, 10:32 PM

That's OK. I am biased in this regard. It is disgraceful what Feinstein and Pelosi and Boxer are doing. Nancy! Is my Pizza ready?

SUBMAN1 · 04-12-09, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Frame57

That's OK. I am biased in this regard. It is disgraceful what Feinstein and Pelosi and Boxer are doing. Nancy! Is my Pizza ready?

Have to agree with you man. She was a bored housewife in California, so one day she decided she wanted to be in Congress - not kidding. How the hell did she bully her way up to the top? Disgraceful.

-S

Kapitan_Phillips · 04-12-09, 11:38 AM

Just so I understand this correctly, is Pelosi lobbying for all firearms to be registered?

Frame57 · 04-12-09, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Have to agree with you man. She was a bored housewife in California, so one day she decided she wanted to be in Congress - not kidding. How the hell did she bully her way up to the top? Disgraceful.

-S

Money. If you have enough of it, you can buy just about anything you want, even political offices. The three witches California produced, Pelosi, Feinstein and Boxer. It is no secret that this state is uber liberal. But it is a feminized version of it, which makes it a social disaster. Even our gang bangers are feminized by evidence of wearing their pants around there ankles. I guess tough guys think getting punked is macho....????

Sailor Steve · 04-13-09, 12:41 PM

There was a thing about this on '60 Minutes' last night. While they interviewed a gun-rights guy my ultra-liberal roommate called him some rude names. I asked him why. He immediately shut up. He likes to voice his opinion, but as soon as I try to talk to him he loses all arguing power. What am I doing wrong? How can I get him to actually debate me on this?

SteamWake · 04-13-09, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

There was a thing about this on '60 Minutes' last night. While they interviewed a gun-rights guy my ultra-liberal roommate called him some rude names. I asked him why. He immediately shut up. He likes to voice his opinion, but as soon as I try to talk to him he loses all arguing power. What am I doing wrong? How can I get him to actually debate me on this?

Pull a gun on him?

Skybird · 04-13-09, 12:50 PM

When cars get registered, why not guns. Debates like this remind me of somebody taking literal the great feeling of wide freedom and wild adventure that comes from using a certain aftershave that seems to promise for some to activate the hunter's genes in male mankind, not to mention greater success with the ladies. "Takes more than combat gear to make a man, takes more than a rifle or a gun, confront your enemies, avoid them if you can, a gentleman will walk but never run..."

FIREWALL · 04-13-09, 01:04 PM

I have a whole set of wenches... And swockets too.

UnderseaLcpl · 04-13-09, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

There was a thing about this on '60 Minutes' last night. While they interviewed a gun-rights guy my ultra-liberal roommate called him some rude names. I asked him why. He immediately shut up. He likes to voice his opinion, but as soon as I try to talk to him he loses all arguing power. What am I doing wrong? How can I get him to actually debate me on this?

Can we trade roommates? Mine won't debate either but I can't get her to shut up long enough to present an argument. Evidently, I am a "machine" because I served in the armed forces, so my opinions don't matter.
For those of you who recall it, she is also the one who caused me to post that bizarre music video a couple of weeks ago for a commercial survey on the premise that it was "fun". The opinions and arguments of people on this board don't matter to her either because we are all militaristic, or "war-lovers" as she puts it.
What a brilliant argument! We all play submarine simulations and other wargames because we love killing people! Why didn't I see it before?

Any side of any issue suffers from these kinds of people. Unfortunately, they tend to be very numerous and very vocal. The worst kind of idiot is one who knows that they are right, no matter what.

04-11-09, 02:51 PM	#1
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	PELOSI: 'We Want Registration'; HOLDER: 2nd Amendment won't stand in the way' NEWS RELEASE Second Amendment Foundation 12500 NE Tenth Place • Bellevue, WA 98005 (425) 454-7012 • FAX (425) 451-3959 • www.saf.org PELOSI: 'WE WANT REGISTRATION'; HOLDER: 2A WON'T 'STAND IN THE WAY'; SAF: 'GLOVES ARE OFF' For Immediate Release: 4/8/2009 BELLEVUE, WA – Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on April 7 acknowledged that gun registration is on her agenda, days after Attorney General Eric Holder told reporters in Mexico that the Second Amendment would not “stand in the way” of administration plans to crack down on alleged gun trafficking to Mexico. “These are alarming remarks from Speaker Pelosi and Attorney General Holder,” said Second Amendment Foundation founder Alan Gottlieb. “It appears that the Obama administration and Capitol Hill anti-gunners have dropped all pretense about their plans for gun owners’ rights, and it looks like the gloves are coming off.” Pelosi’s revelation came during an interview on ABC’s Good Morning, America. While insisting that Congress “never denied” the gun rights of American Citizens, Pelosi told Roberts, “We want them registered. We don’t want them crossing state lines” Gottlieb noted that citizens’ rights do not stop at state lines. “But that doesn’t really matter,” he observed. “History has shown that around the world, registration has always led to confiscation.” In Mexico, according to the Wall Street Journal, Holder was asked if the administration might encounter constitutional issues as it tries to crack down on alleged gun trafficking. His response: “I don’t think our Second Amendment will stand in the way of efforts we have begun and will expand upon.” “These comments belie administration promises and Democrat rhetoric that party leaders respect the rights of law-abiding Americans to own the firearm of their choice,” Gottlieb said. “They imposed registration of semi-autos in Pelosi’s California and it led to a ban, but it certainly didn’t disarm criminals, like the convicted felon who killed four Oakland police officers last month. We know from Holder that the Obama administration wants to renew the nationwide ban on such firearms, but that won’t prevent crime, either. “The administration and Congressional anti-gunners have declared war on gun rights,” Gottlieb said. “The press seems deliberately blind to the statements from Pelosi and Holder, who blame our gun rights for their incompetence in dealing with crime. More than 90 million gun owners haven’t hurt anybody, and they are tired of being treated like criminals.” The Second Amendment Foundation (www.saf.org) is the nations oldest and largest tax-exempt education, research, publishing and legal action group focusing on the Constitutional right and heritage to privately own and possess firearms. Founded in 1974, The Foundation has grown to more than 600,000 members and supporters and conducts many programs designed to better inform the public about the consequences of gun control. SAF has previously funded successful firearms-related suits against the cities of Los Angeles; New Haven, CT; and San Francisco on behalf of American gun owners, a lawsuit against the cities suing gun makers and an amicus brief and fund for the Emerson case holding the Second Amendment as an individual right. -END- __________________

04-11-09, 04:16 PM	#3
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,384 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Well this is why we have a congress with 535 people and a supreme court so that one or two people's personal agenda is nothing to worry about. Now if 51 members of the Senate and 218 members of the House tell me they have this same agenda, then I will start getting a little worried. Even then it will have to get past the Supreme Court which seems to take the constitution pretty seriously. One person in congress spouting their personal agenda? Not even newsworthy. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

04-11-09, 06:09 PM	#4
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	must be a weekend party on lib's ! __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

04-11-09, 08:30 PM	#5
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Will somebody please tell the speaker of the house that her place is in the kitchen.....Get me another beer winch or wench or whatever the hell you are __________________ "My Religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds." Albert Einstein

04-11-09, 08:35 PM	#6
UnderseaLcpl Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Storming the beaches! Posts: 4,254 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well, that's bound to piss someone off I disagree with your "wench" platform, but I am strongly supportive of your "beer" platform __________________ I stole this sig from Task Force

04-11-09, 10:32 PM	#7
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	That's OK. I am biased in this regard. It is disgraceful what Feinstein and Pelosi and Boxer are doing. Nancy! Is my Pizza ready? __________________ "My Religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds." Albert Einstein

04-12-09, 11:38 AM	#9
Kapitan_Phillips Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swansea Posts: 3,903 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	Just so I understand this correctly, is Pelosi lobbying for all firearms to be registered? __________________ Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into.

04-13-09, 12:41 PM	#11
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	There was a thing about this on '60 Minutes' last night. While they interviewed a gun-rights guy my ultra-liberal roommate called him some rude names. I asked him why. He immediately shut up. He likes to voice his opinion, but as soon as I try to talk to him he loses all arguing power. What am I doing wrong? How can I get him to actually debate me on this? __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

04-13-09, 12:50 PM	#13
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,680 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	When cars get registered, why not guns. Debates like this remind me of somebody taking literal the great feeling of wide freedom and wild adventure that comes from using a certain aftershave that seems to promise for some to activate the hunter's genes in male mankind, not to mention greater success with the ladies. "Takes more than combat gear to make a man, takes more than a rifle or a gun, confront your enemies, avoid them if you can, a gentleman will walk but never run..." __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

04-13-09, 01:04 PM	#14
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	I have a whole set of wenches... And swockets too. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???