Obama vows to pursue a planet free of nuclear weapons

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Yes Zach please ignore my Civil duty as a citizen of the united states.... What are you ******* insane?

Ive a better idea (In my opinion) how about you take a hike and check into the nearest asylum since you seem to want "Serious Voter Reform" Which sounds in context to me as "Anything to keep democrats from voting"

I knew you had issues with me but this takes the cake. Are you so right wing that you would rather have your guy win by people not making their voices heard?

North Korea is that way.


BTW I point and laugh as I guess you do not believe they are working on such weapons. Go on being naieve if you wish but there is no way in hell we will let someone else get to that point first.

You know I WAS against Obama going deep into the military budget but with the rash of outright insanity from the right. Maybe we need to bring things a tad bit. Just incase we get another insane right wing president (Spurred on by such as you). Don't need this crap anyway when the future is drones.

Go cry in a corner and fear the terrorists for the next 3 years if it makes you feel better. I will not, Obama may be a dumbass when it comes to the presidency but it takes a TOTAL and complete loon to get us into a situation where we cant defend ourselves. (BTW by that I mean disbanding the military or cutting its funding to 99 cents or somthing)

Dude, no one's seriously developing antimatter weaponry. Why would they, when they can achieve the same destructive effects for a fraction of the cost - not including R&D? Sure, the effeciency of energy dispersion is theoretically much higher with AM, but the cost to blow up a city is the bottom line.

[Zachstar]

With antimatter we arent talking photon torpedoes or city busters. Even a small amount is enough to devastate a country.

Yes EXTREMELY expensive but needed nonetheless. Can you assure me China is not developing such? Russia?

You can't nobody can but the fact of the matter is making antimatter is not as much sci fi anymore as it is a need of construction and energy. (And of course the need to keep things hush hush so the people dont demand it be shut down in the fear of another cold war)

And yes it is entriely unneeded as even 1000 nukes is enough to devastate the population of any nation.

But an antimatter bomb that kind of power would not just blast cities, it would obilterate everything in sight the power of these things is beyond idmagination.

What did you think NASA was going to be the only users of Antimatter?

[Aramike]

With antimatter we arent talking photon torpedoes or city busters. Even a small amount is enough to devastate a country.

Umm, I know the physics of it, thanks.

Yes EXTREMELY expensive but needed nonetheless. Can you assure me China is not developing such? Russia?

Yes, I can.

Why? Hmm, let's see ... to produce one gram of antimatter at current production capabilities it would take, oh, say, 2 BILLION YEARS to produce ... and that's using the massive decelerator at CERN. If Russia, China, or ANY nation built such a facility they wouldn't be able to hide it.

Oh, and one gram of antimatter would have the energetic discharge of 3 Hiroshima bombs ... not quite worth a billion years, hey?

...and that's not to mention the practical fact that such a weapon would be inherently unsafe for its handlers. When one wants a nuke to go off, they must trigger it, thereby forcing a very specific and complex chemical reaction to occur that would be highly unlikely in an accident. With a theoretical antimatter bomb, to detonate it you'd have to simply stop preventing its detonation. See how dangerous that would be?

Do you have ANY evidence that ANYONE is developing such a weapon or are you just speculating?

What did you think NASA was going to be the only users of Antimatter?

When they actually START using the miniscule amounts available (in maybe 100 years), there won't be any left for weaponization.

You DID know that antimatter is said to be the most costly substance on Earth, right?

[Aramike]

This is funny, from CERN's website: http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/...tAandD-en.html

Can we make antimatter bombs?

No. It would take billions of years to produce enough antimatter for a bomb having the same destructiveness as ‘typical’ hydrogen bombs, of which there exist more than ten thousand already.
Sociological note: scientists realized that the atom bomb was a real possibility many years before one was actually built and exploded, and then the public was totally surprised and amazed. On the other hand, the public somehow anticipates the antimatter bomb, but we have known for a long time that it cannot be realized in practice.

So what were you saying about antimatter bombs?

[antikristuseke]

Originally Posted by CERN

If we could assemble all the antimatter we've ever made at CERN and annihilate it with matter, we would have enough energy to light a single electric light bulb for a few minutes.

PHEER the bomb.

Ve can vin ze Anti Matter race mine Fuh...President

Good message by Obama. He won't come far, for that there are too many nutcases still endoursed about romantic phantasies about winning a nuclear war or loving the cold war concept of nuclear detterence all around the world. It will be some time still until human intelligence has evolved to such a level the concept is abandoned.

Gotta admit it to the guy, he sure knows how to deliver head ups.


"...reduce the US's nuclear weapons capabilities to dangerous levels. 1,000 or less warheads is what he said."

That is so totally SIG worthy :rotfl: