The End of the Internet

Onkel Neal · 04-04-09, 12:50 AM

At least for the US. I doubt Europe will pull this crap

http://i.gizmodo.com/5033779/giz-explains-how-broadband-usage-caps-will-kill-internet-video

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a different network management trend started to emerge among the major ISPs: metered broadband, aka data caps. It's like dial-up service or wireless data: After reaching your alotted amount of data for the month, you pay extra, maybe through the nose, as our northern neighbors in Canada are familiar with.

nikimcbee · 04-04-09, 01:02 AM

Okay, so if subsim exceeds its bandwidth quota, does that mean i can just call you (Neal) up on the phone to comment on stuff? You better not have caller ID.

...and can i get those calls added to my post count, (gotta keep up with the bunas yah know)

I can see it now......
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ring ring...
This is Neal.
Yo Neal wazup? So how's the model going?

click. Neal? Neal?

5 minutes later...
ring, ring...
this is Neal.
yo Neal wazup? Did you watch the Rayduz game?

click.

04-04-09, 02:18 AM

Welcome to the wonderful world of Australian Broadband - This how its done here , you pay for a certain amount a month at the speed you want then ,when you go over ,you get your speed throttled down or your ISP's lets you keep your download speed and you need to buy blocks of extra download amount - the last time I had to reinstall my OS I was near the end of the month and near my limit ,so I had to pay an extra $24.95au for an extra 5gig to make sure I didn't run out with all the update's and re-downloads

HunterICX · 04-04-09, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

At least for the US. I doubt Europe will pull this crap

http://i.gizmodo.com/5033779/giz-explains-how-broadband-usage-caps-will-kill-internet-video

Because Europe had some countries that did the same, most got rid of that policy but I think some of the countries still have this.

HunterICX

stabiz · 04-04-09, 03:34 AM

There is no sign of this here in Norway, I actually think there would be a revolution if anybody suggested it.

Respenus · 04-04-09, 04:15 AM

Slovenian broadband has been based on the flat-rate principle from the start. It doesn't matter which speed you chose or with which operator, you always get the same deal and only pay a set monthly fee. Our neighbours to the south, well, they are well known for their bankruptcy stories due to internet bills.

antikristuseke · 04-04-09, 05:21 AM

Here the internets is allso at a flat rate, personaly pay 25 euros a month for 12mbit/1mbit connection, cable tv and phone line on which calls in the same service providers network are free.

VipertheSniper · 04-04-09, 07:24 AM

It was like that before here in Austria, but they dropped that... now, if you have a package with a download or traffic limit and you exceed that, your connection will be throttled down, but you don't pay extra.

Jimbuna · 04-04-09, 08:09 AM

Capping is still quite common here in the UK.

There are two options generally:

1) You pay for what you take in excess of your allowance.

2) Once you reach your allowance, your bandwidth is reduced for the remainder of the month.

Fortunately not all ISPs practice these measures.

SteamWake · 04-04-09, 09:29 AM

From what Ive read that the 'cap' is gracious plenty for most users.

Something about downloading two or three full movies a day and still have room left.

But of course they will narrow that down till eventually everyone pays.

I would also assume that for folks that use tons of bandwidth special plans would be made available.

NeonSamurai · 04-04-09, 01:10 PM

Don't even get me started on Canadian ISP's. I'm personally capped at 60gb a month, and get hit with 2$ per gig over that to a maximum of 25$. I can easily go over that in a month (particularly with web video sites, and multi gb demos).

On top of it the bastard company Rogers, didn't make enough money last year so as a result they are hiking prices again by like 13%. I hope they go bankrupt.

SteamWake · 04-04-09, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

Don't even get me started on Canadian ISP's. I'm personally capped at 60gb a month, and get hit with 2$ per gig over that to a maximum of 25$. I can easily go over that in a month (particularly with web video sites, and multi gb demos).

On top of it the bastard company Rogers, didn't make enough money last year so as a result they are hiking prices again by like 13%. I hope they go bankrupt.

What would you do then?

AVGWarhawk · 04-04-09, 05:30 PM

They are only looking at revenue. Forget the customers. This done on a large scale would net large dollars. I would probably reach my limit on my work computer in a day.

Task Force · 04-04-09, 05:32 PM

I hope my provider dosent do this.

NeonSamurai · 04-04-09, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

What would you do then?

Oh I'm probably going to dump them and go with one of 2 independent ISPs that don't fix bandwidth limits (or others that have much higher, some are 200 GB or more). Worse comes to worse I can go with Bell Canada which offers higher limits for less (this is before even the price hike which most customers are utterly enraged over). This does though leave me a quandary about TV services as there are only the 2 (Bell and Rogers), but I'm getting to the point where I don't care any more, I don't watch a whole lot of TV any more and most of it is available from the station online.

04-04-09, 01:02 AM	#2
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Okay, so if subsim exceeds its bandwidth quota, does that mean i can just call you (Neal) up on the phone to comment on stuff? You better not have caller ID. ...and can i get those calls added to my post count, (gotta keep up with the bunas yah know) I can see it now...... . . . ring ring... This is Neal. Yo Neal wazup? So how's the model going? click. Neal? Neal? 5 minutes later... ring, ring... this is Neal. yo Neal wazup? Did you watch the Rayduz game? click. __________________

04-04-09, 03:34 AM	#5
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	There is no sign of this here in Norway, I actually think there would be a revolution if anybody suggested it. __________________

04-04-09, 04:15 AM	#6
Respenus Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,169 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Slovenian broadband has been based on the flat-rate principle from the start. It doesn't matter which speed you chose or with which operator, you always get the same deal and only pay a set monthly fee. Our neighbours to the south, well, they are well known for their bankruptcy stories due to internet bills. __________________

04-04-09, 08:09 AM	#9
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,291 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Capping is still quite common here in the UK. There are two options generally: 1) You pay for what you take in excess of your allowance. 2) Once you reach your allowance, your bandwidth is reduced for the remainder of the month. Fortunately not all ISPs practice these measures. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

04-04-09, 09:29 AM	#10
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	From what Ive read that the 'cap' is gracious plenty for most users. Something about downloading two or three full movies a day and still have room left. But of course they will narrow that down till eventually everyone pays. I would also assume that for folks that use tons of bandwidth special plans would be made available. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

04-04-09, 02:18 AM	#3
darius359au Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Welcome to the wonderful world of Australian Broadband - This how its done here , you pay for a certain amount a month at the speed you want then ,when you go over ,you get your speed throttled down or your ISP's lets you keep your download speed and you need to buy blocks of extra download amount - the last time I had to reinstall my OS I was near the end of the month and near my limit ,so I had to pay an extra $24.95au for an extra 5gig to make sure I didn't run out with all the update's and re-downloads

04-04-09, 05:21 AM	#7
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Here the internets is allso at a flat rate, personaly pay 25 euros a month for 12mbit/1mbit connection, cable tv and phone line on which calls in the same service providers network are free.

04-04-09, 07:24 AM	#8
VipertheSniper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Austria Posts: 1,074 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It was like that before here in Austria, but they dropped that... now, if you have a package with a download or traffic limit and you exceed that, your connection will be throttled down, but you don't pay extra.

04-04-09, 01:10 PM	#11
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Don't even get me started on Canadian ISP's. I'm personally capped at 60gb a month, and get hit with 2$ per gig over that to a maximum of 25$. I can easily go over that in a month (particularly with web video sites, and multi gb demos). On top of it the bastard company Rogers, didn't make enough money last year so as a result they are hiking prices again by like 13%. I hope they go bankrupt. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

04-04-09, 05:30 PM	#13
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,303 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	They are only looking at revenue. Forget the customers. This done on a large scale would net large dollars. I would probably reach my limit on my work computer in a day. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

04-04-09, 05:32 PM	#14
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I hope my provider dosent do this. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"