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Old 03-27-09, 08:39 PM   #16
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Thanks very much for the link, forwarded it to my buddy too.
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Old 03-28-09, 11:39 AM   #17
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Wow, membership must really be dropping if they are forced to give it away for free.
And here I was, thinking you at least had some logical thought. I am sorry you proved me wrong once again. This is perhaps one of the smartest moves they could have ever done. Quite genius I might add.

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Old 03-28-09, 11:39 AM   #18
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To everyone else - you're welcome!

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Old 03-28-09, 11:42 AM   #19
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And here I was, thinking you at least had some logical thought. I am sorry you proved me wrong once again. This is perhaps one of the smartest moves they could have ever done. Quite genius I might add.
Platapus's comment was indeed a dig. But so was this reply, and also required no logical thought, just a superior and condescending attitude. No genius at all.
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Old 03-28-09, 11:51 AM   #20
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Platapus's comment was indeed a dig. But so was this reply, and also required no logical thought, just a superior and condescending attitude. No genius at all.
And yours is a dig too. I was referring to the NRA's idea to give away for a short time NRA memberships that were quite genius, though I see you're are out to quickly pull my chain.

Anyway. Not looking to get into a pissing match, so I end my reply digs here.

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Old 03-28-09, 01:27 PM   #21
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Platapus's comment was indeed a dig. But so was this reply, and also required no logical thought, just a superior and condescending attitude. No genius at all.

Don't sweat it Steve. Let Subman have his fun. He likes that sort of stuff.

But I appreciate the assist.

And yes it was a dig at the NRA. I have been a shooter for more than 20 years and I have never been a member of the NRA. I have some personal disagreements with the NRA and exercise my right not to support their lobbying activities.

When I was shooting in USPSA competitions, I used to pay a higher entry fee because I was not a member. To me, it was worth it to maintain separation from an organization I often disagree with. I also disagree with the way shooters and shooting organizations push membership in the NRA.

NRA membership only represents less than 10% of American Gun Owners.

Estimated 44 million (1) gun owners vs estimated <4 million (2) NRA members. 40 Million gun owners can't all be wrong. I am a proud member of the Majority group in this issue.

(1) http://ojjdp.ncjrs.org/pubs/gun_violence/sect01.html
(2) http://www.nraila.org/About/

It is my opinion that the NRA, through their rhetoric, has done more harm for the perception of gun-ownership than their lobbying activities have helped it. Charlton Heston (RIP) holding a rifle in his hands bellowing "from my cold dead fingers" is not representative of my idea of responsible gun-ownership.

But these are my opinions only. If anyone wishes to take advantage of the free membership of the NRA and be subject to their marketing, more power to them. I wish them only the best of luck.

As for me, even a free membership in the NRA is over priced.

One has to ask oneself, why would the NRA offer free memberships? They want your money. Often free gifts are too expensive.

But anyway, everyone to his own. I wish all of you the best of luck in your dealings with the NRA.
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Old 03-28-09, 01:47 PM   #22
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It is my opinion that the NRA, through their rhetoric, has done more harm for the perception of gun-ownership than their lobbying activities have helped it. Charlton Heston (RIP) holding a rifle in his hands bellowing "from my cold dead fingers" is not representative of my idea of responsible gun-ownership.
That's why, as a gun owner and avid shooter, I haven't joined them either. I applaud their gun safety programs and sponsorship of shooting events, but then they shoot themselves in the foot with the rabid antigun control rantings....
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And yours is a dig too. I was referring to the NRA's idea to give away for a short time NRA memberships that were quite genius, though I see you're are out to quickly pull my chain.

Anyway. Not looking to get into a pissing match, so I end my reply digs here.
I snipe at you because a lot of the time I agree with you; and I expect more of people I agree with.
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Well forgive me for being a bit on the short side when I wrote it then. Too many other things on my mind than to put any more effort into replying to his post than I did.

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I support the NRA because they are the only ones who will go to DC to fight for the second amendment. They are the ones who fought for the gun owners in San Fran to battle the gruesome Newesome. I would venture to say if it were not for the NRA we would probably be in the same boat as Australia and England.
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I support the NRA because they are the only ones who will go to DC to fight for the second amendment. They are the ones who fought for the gun owners in San Fran to battle the gruesome Newesome. I would venture to say if it were not for the NRA we would probably be in the same boat as Australia and England.
About as accurate a statement as can be made right there. I don't want to end up like the UK and their PC run amok. The safest profession there is burglary.

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Old 03-29-09, 12:23 PM   #27
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Then my post served its purpose.
Some of you might have noticed, I actualy like firearms.
Well there is a NRA in Finland, as crazy as it sounds, you might want to inquire about a membership from them if you absolutely must join them. They kinda came here after the first school shooting. Where is the logic in that I'm not sure.
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I support the NRA because they are the only ones who will go to DC to fight for the second amendment.
Not the only ones. Please keep in mind that the following organizations are also lobbying for the rights of gun ownership:

- Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms
- Gun Owners of America
- Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (one does not have to be Jewish to join this organization)
- The Law Enforcement Alliance of America
- Liberty Belles
- The Pink Pistols (Yes even homosexuals are in favour of gun ownership rights)
- The Second Amendment Foundation
- Second Amendment Sisters, Inc.
- Students for Concealed Carry on Campus

And a multitude of smaller groups all working for the rights of gun ownership.

The NRA may be the most famous/infamous but they are not the only lobbying group working for the rights of gun owners.
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Agreed on that it is just they are the heavy hitters with the legal side of things....Pink Pistols????
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Old 03-29-09, 05:48 PM   #30
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Well there is a NRA in Finland, as crazy as it sounds, you might want to inquire about a membership from them if you absolutely must join them. They kinda came here after the first school shooting. Where is the logic in that I'm not sure.
No thanks, I have absolutely no interest in joining the NRA. Allready the member of the militia.
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