SH3 Map Questions

Sharkley · 03-25-09, 11:47 AM

Ok, this may sound silly but I never really put any thought into it before today. The map you get with SH3, it shows shipping and convoy routes, if playing the game are you more likely to see a ship within those routes ?

And when mods are created like GWX etc do they continue to use the stock sailing path ?

I know it sounds silly but I am working on some intelligence reports for DGW - Real Time Patrols and I need to know if the marked routes are actually used in stock game and modded.

Thanks

FIREWALL · 03-25-09, 12:03 PM

Good question Sharkley

Nothing silly about it at all.

I won't speak for GWX but in stock SH3 yes those routes are good if you wait long enough.

Sharkley · 03-25-09, 12:34 PM

Thanks, that was my hope.

I'll assume that in GWX it is the same as they must be loosley based on historical information.. ( I hope )

Cheers !

sharkbit · 03-25-09, 12:45 PM

I seem to remember apost from Jimbuna that GWX tweeked those a little bit and that they might not be too reliable.
I still generally use them though, right or wrong.

There is a mod out there that puts them on your in game map when zoomed out.

Sharkley · 03-25-09, 12:47 PM

Cool, like I said they are for "Intelligence Reports" They don't need to be 100% heck even 30% correct would be great..

Thanks for the reply..man I love this site !!

sharkbit · 03-26-09, 09:51 AM

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danlisa · 03-26-09, 01:39 PM

As well as adding 'unmarked' routes, GWX does follow those routes marked on the map loosely.

IIRC, there is a randomised radius on each waypoint that a convoy in GWX follows, which would mean that a convoy could be somewhere around +/- 250km (ish, not sure) from that imaginary line.

RoaldLarsen · 03-27-09, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharkley

Thanks, that was my hope.

I'll assume that in GWX it is the same as they must be loosley based on historical information.. ( I hope )

Cheers !

IRL, the routes varied. It was unlikely that two consecutive convoys on the same route designation would follow the same course.

Convoys were given designations which indicated their origin and destination (for instance an 'HX' convoy was one that went from Halifax to Britain), but the route they planned to travel in between these points was determined by the current intelligence situation. In fact, the route of a convoy was often altered while at sea as a result of information about u-boat locations obtained through Ultra intercepts.

While the game engine does allow for some randomization of routes, the game rarely reflects the extreme variations that took place IRL. This is one of the factors that results in too many ship sightings in the game.

03-25-09, 11:47 AM	#1
Sharkley Engineer Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 216 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	SH3 Map Questions Ok, this may sound silly but I never really put any thought into it before today. The map you get with SH3, it shows shipping and convoy routes, if playing the game are you more likely to see a ship within those routes ? And when mods are created like GWX etc do they continue to use the stock sailing path ? I know it sounds silly but I am working on some intelligence reports for DGW - Real Time Patrols and I need to know if the marked routes are actually used in stock game and modded. Thanks __________________ Tonnage Wars http://www.comsubspac.com/ http://www.bts-mods.com/

03-25-09, 12:03 PM	#2
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Good question Sharkley Nothing silly about it at all. I won't speak for GWX but in stock SH3 yes those routes are good if you wait long enough. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

03-25-09, 12:34 PM	#3
Sharkley Engineer Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 216 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Thanks, that was my hope. I'll assume that in GWX it is the same as they must be loosley based on historical information.. ( I hope ) Cheers ! __________________ Tonnage Wars http://www.comsubspac.com/ http://www.bts-mods.com/

03-25-09, 12:45 PM	#4
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	I seem to remember apost from Jimbuna that GWX tweeked those a little bit and that they might not be too reliable. I still generally use them though, right or wrong. There is a mod out there that puts them on your in game map when zoomed out. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

03-25-09, 12:47 PM	#5
Sharkley Engineer Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 216 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Cool, like I said they are for "Intelligence Reports" They don't need to be 100% heck even 30% correct would be great.. Thanks for the reply..man I love this site !! __________________ Tonnage Wars http://www.comsubspac.com/ http://www.bts-mods.com/

03-26-09, 01:39 PM	#7
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	As well as adding 'unmarked' routes, GWX does follow those routes marked on the map loosely. IIRC, there is a randomised radius on each waypoint that a convoy in GWX follows, which would mean that a convoy could be somewhere around +/- 250km (ish, not sure) from that imaginary line. __________________