Report: Slain US Nazi hated Obama, had parts for 'dirty bomb'

Zachstar · 03-09-09, 10:06 PM

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Trust fund millionaire James G. Cummings, an American Nazi sympathizer from Maine who was slain by his wife Amber in December, allegedly had the radioactive components necessary to construct a "dirty bomb," a newly released threat analysis report states.

The man, allegedly furious over the election of President Obama, purchased depleted uranium over the Internet from an American company.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Slain_..._for_0309.html

Geezus!

Of course its not one of "them" (The stereotypical boogieman for the past decade) so I guess the public will forget quickly.

Yes I understand that DU is not THAT radioactive but in reality most dirty bombs are meant to destroy by panic than direct effect are they not?

August · 03-09-09, 10:13 PM

Nazis. The original scumbag terrorists...

Max2147 · 03-09-09, 10:23 PM

Nazis suck - something we can all agree on!

baggygreen · 03-09-09, 10:27 PM

I would imagine if he had for example set off a bomb coated in DU, the explosion would have caused casualties, but the radiation would not have. From what i've seen DU is simply nowhere near radioactive enough.

You're right though, it would cause a good amount of fear, especially when the news networks begin pondering what might have been if it was a maniacal muslim with real radioactive waste from Pakistan's or Iran's nuke program..

Freiwillige · 03-09-09, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Nazis. The original scumbag terrorists...

2 things I must point out. First Nazi's or National Socialists are hardly the original terrorists, In fact I would have to say that they came way late on the scene. You have Ghingas Khan, The Roman's, Hell even the Communist murdered before the Nazis!

The second thing that I would point out is that alot of American views like ultra conservative politics would have much in common with National Socialist Germany.

Nazi baiting is so last world war. :rotfl:

A Very Super Market · 03-10-09, 12:30 AM

Nazis, while horrible people, aren't terrorists. I don't think the term would be used correctly to describe nazis, Genghis Khan, the Romans or communists.

Freiwillige · 03-10-09, 01:59 AM

I must agree. Terrorists aren't usually nation states. The word terrorist has been thrown around so loosely that it has lost all meaning. It has become the favorite label of (Name organization you dislike here). Its a smear word.

Now when the word first gained notoriety nobody was in doubt as to what a terrorist was, But in these (Gag cough) politically correct (Sick) times "we the sheeple" must be cautious as so not to offend the worlds scum.

Raptor1 · 03-10-09, 02:46 AM

Err, could you even make a dirty bomb from DU? I mean, by definition, DU is very weakly radioactive, and contains an even lower concentration of U-235 than natural uranium

Dirty bombs are supposed to spread and kill using radioactivity, I'm sure it is easier to create panic by just putting more explosives in the bomb...

Schroeder · 03-10-09, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Max2147

Nazis suck - something we can all agree on!

Agreed.

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Originally Posted by Raptor1

Dirty bombs are supposed to spread and kill using radioactivity, I'm sure it is easier to create panic by just putting more explosives in the bomb...

Imagine the media hype after something explodes in a big city that has something to do with radioactivity. It doesn't matter how low it is there will be some sort of panic.
Besides DU is nothing you want to have stick in a wound that was caused by the explosion of that bomb.

Skybird · 03-10-09, 06:50 AM

I hold a zero tolerance policy towards certain groups and people - and Nazis are one of them. Since they have abandoned their legal and moral duties to civilised society, for me they also no longer have any right to claim rights and securities from these legal codes.

"Kick on sight".

Raptor1 · 03-10-09, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

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Originally Posted by Raptor1

Dirty bombs are supposed to spread and kill using radioactivity, I'm sure it is easier to create panic by just putting more explosives in the bomb...

Imagine the media hype after something explodes in a big city that has something to do with radioactivity. It doesn't matter how low it is there will be some sort of panic.
Besides DU is nothing you want to have stick in a wound that was caused by the explosion of that bomb.

Eh, I suppose, just makes me sick at how ignorant the media and the general population can be though

Sailor Steve · 03-10-09, 10:20 AM

I don't care if it's a dirty bomb, a clean bomb, or a pipe bomb. I also don't care if he's a Nazi, a Communist, a Catholic, a Hindu, an Atheist, A Jain, A Buddhist or a Baptist or a Jew.

Anybody who thinks that doing what he contemplated is any kind of a solution is himself the problem. Period

While I'm theoretically against murder, I'm of the opinion that his wife did us all a favor.

I do agree about the media, though. Radiation is bad, therefore irradiating food is bad. Idiots.

Frame57 · 03-10-09, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I don't care if it's a dirty bomb, a clean bomb, or a pipe bomb. I also don't care if he's a Nazi, a Communist, a Catholic, a Hindu, an Atheist, A Jain, A Buddhist or a Baptist or a Jew.

Anybody who thinks that doing what he contemplated is any kind of a solution is himself the problem. Period

While I'm theoretically against murder, I'm of the opinion that his wife did us all a favor.

I do agree about the media, though. Radiation is bad, therefore irradiating food is bad. Idiots.

Yep! A necessary evil...

SteamWake · 03-10-09, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1

Err, could you even make a dirty bomb from DU? I mean, by definition, DU is very weakly radioactive, and contains an even lower concentration of U-235 than natural uranium

Dirty bombs are supposed to spread and kill using radioactivity, I'm sure it is easier to create panic by just putting more explosives in the bomb...

Well actually there purpose would be to cause fear, panic, and dismay.

The DU could be enough to trip the air monitors. That alone would probably end up with quite a few deaths.

There is something missing in this story though. What about the wife? What was her motive?

heartc · 03-10-09, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Max2147

Nazis suck - something we can all agree on!

Which is easy now and quite meaningless because they are dead (please don't confuse skin-headed radical dumbasses with the Nazis from the 30s and 40s.)

There is a saying which is quite true: The longer Hitler has been dead, the more resistance there is against him.

Meanwhile the dictator of Iran is building the bomb.

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Nazis. The original scumbag terrorists... __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Nazis, while horrible people, aren't terrorists. I don't think the term would be used correctly to describe nazis, Genghis Khan, the Romans or communists. __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

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Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Err, could you even make a dirty bomb from DU? I mean, by definition, DU is very weakly radioactive, and contains an even lower concentration of U-235 than natural uranium Dirty bombs are supposed to spread and kill using radioactivity, I'm sure it is easier to create panic by just putting more explosives in the bomb... __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,618 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I hold a zero tolerance policy towards certain groups and people - and Nazis are one of them. Since they have abandoned their legal and moral duties to civilised society, for me they also no longer have any right to claim rights and securities from these legal codes. "Kick on sight". __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I don't care if it's a dirty bomb, a clean bomb, or a pipe bomb. I also don't care if he's a Nazi, a Communist, a Catholic, a Hindu, an Atheist, A Jain, A Buddhist or a Baptist or a Jew. Anybody who thinks that doing what he contemplated is any kind of a solution is himself the problem. Period While I'm theoretically against murder, I'm of the opinion that his wife did us all a favor. I do agree about the media, though. Radiation is bad, therefore irradiating food is bad. Idiots. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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Max2147 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 714 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Nazis suck - something we can all agree on!

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baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	I would imagine if he had for example set off a bomb coated in DU, the explosion would have caused casualties, but the radiation would not have. From what i've seen DU is simply nowhere near radioactive enough. You're right though, it would cause a good amount of fear, especially when the news networks begin pondering what might have been if it was a maniacal muslim with real radioactive waste from Pakistan's or Iran's nuke program..

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Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	I must agree. Terrorists aren't usually nation states. The word terrorist has been thrown around so loosely that it has lost all meaning. It has become the favorite label of (Name organization you dislike here). Its a smear word. Now when the word first gained notoriety nobody was in doubt as to what a terrorist was, But in these (Gag cough) politically correct (Sick) times "we the sheeple" must be cautious as so not to offend the worlds scum.