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Old 03-09-09, 03:57 PM   #1
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there are several clues in the file which indicate the camera was not shooting through the scope but the "mask" was added later when the file was copied. It is possible the scope looked like that but I don't feel from the "evidence" that this is actual footage taken through the scope.
I'm inclined to concur on that, the more so after browsing through the Fischer Tropp web files, were it states that the pictures taken with cameras through scopes was a primitive technique for the japanese, not giving good results. It looks as it would be a fake scope, although inspired in the real one. The exact same size for vertical and horizontal scope also doesn't match well with the distribution in the real scope I commented above (radians vs. degrees).


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Ok, color me stupid but you lost me on this one. How can both of the red lines be 10 degrees?

Second: What are the 10s around the outside of the view? Pointed with the yellow.
Very easy: The modified cameras.dat reduces the Field of view to 30º, thus kicking the old reticle out of the visible area. But the "10" marks are scripted in the menu.ini file and must be manually edited (Something I leave for a perfected final version). They stay were the 10 degree mark was before opening the field of view, which is no longer there

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anyhow which reticle do you like best ?
The reticle you posted is of course apparently more exact looking, yet as I explained before it will not work as intended. If you are planning to eliminate the double prism stadimeter in the periscope (And IJN subs apparently had none) you need an exact reticle for manual targeting, so I prefer mine.
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Old 03-09-09, 04:00 PM   #2
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Oh I forgot: Both red lines are actually 10 degrees, BUT one is linear and the other is curved. In the scope field of view it is linear, in the bearing indicator it is curved due to being adapted to a full 360º circumference.

You can do an easy check: place the central vertical line on any fixed object (a tree). Take menthal note of where the linear 10 degree mark is now (Pick another tree as reference). Now move the scope to put on that second tree the central line: ou will see that the scope effectively rotated those 10 degrees
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Old 03-09-09, 05:50 PM   #3
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Oh I forgot: Both red lines are actually 10 degrees, BUT one is linear and the other is curved. In the scope field of view it is linear, in the bearing indicator it is curved due to being adapted to a full 360º circumference.

You can do an easy check: place the central vertical line on any fixed object (a tree). Take menthal note of where the linear 10 degree mark is now (Pick another tree as reference). Now move the scope to put on that second tree the central line: ou will see that the scope effectively rotated those 10 degrees
can't we find a way for this to work with the larger view (30°) ?

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