Watchmen (w/Spoilerz)

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

I have got to see that just for the naked blue man. That sounds funny as hell..

Naked Blue Man tips the balance of power.....

IT was swinging...

IT WAS SWINGING!!!

SOMEONE HAD TO ANIMATE THAT! GOOD GOD!

Good movie, though.

[Blacklight]

I just got back from seeing Watchmen. I thought the movie was good. It didn't rape the source material and pretty much followed the literature word for word. The guy who played Rorschach REALLY got the character down and looked just like I'd imagine he'd look, sound, and act.
The only comment I have on it is that they didn't really flesh out the world in any kind of depth and without that very rich background, the movie can be very confusing to your average movie-goer who hasn't ever encounterd the graphic novel. They also kind of glossed over a lot of Rorchach's past where it was VERY fleshed out in the graphic novel.
I kind of wish they had gone for three hours to flesh everything out instead of the 2.5 hours.
Once again, I urge those of you who havn't read it, pick up a copy (Most libraries have it), and read it. It's not a typical comic book. It's not an action story. It's just a good sci-fi/mystery story.

The only other thing that annoyed me had nothing to do with the movie. In the theater, there were a LOT of clueless parents who brought their young kids to see this movie. Needless to say, since this movie is NOT really a superhero movie, or an action movie, they were bored to death and got ANNOYING. Not to mention all the violence and graphic sex scenes. Obviously, some parents feel that a movie based on a comic book HAS to be for kids ! I mean.. hey ! It's got someone nammed Night Owl in it !! It's gotta be a kids movie.... a rated R kids movie with comic book heroes in it !!!

Comic books aren't for kids anymore.

[Onkel Neal]

How many times did he use the word "flesh" in that summary. Is he trying to tell us something?

[Blacklight]

*counts*

Three !!
Are we counting the nude scenes too ?

Here is a Movie that is close to
Shindlers List called
The Reader,
Not for Kids,
But beats Valkyrie hands down,
Check it Out,

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by owner20071963

Here is a Movie that is close to
Shindlers List called
The Reader,
Not for Kids,
But beats Valkyrie hands down,
Check it Out,

The Reader. Yep that one is not for kids! Seen it but didn't think its close to Schindler's List. She deserved to win the academy for her role in this movie that's for sure, ''just following orders''. Good movie.

You might like "The boy in the stripped pajamas" about a german boy (who's father is commander of the concentration camp) befriends a Jewish boy from the camp. The story is brilliant two boys who don't hold a grudge against each other cause of there race all they wanna do is play. The ending is a shocker.

I aim to see Watchmen sometime this week.

[Sailor Steve]

Read the comic. Sorry, it wasn't composed as a graphic novel, but as a 12-issue comic back when. Didn't like it then. First, Moore wanted to use the old Charleton characters that DC had recently aquired. DC said no, so he invented his own rip-offs of the same characters and ran with them, and DC published it. I thought it was brilliant, but I didn't really like the story.

On thing Alan Moore doesn't understand at all is Americans. The set-up was preposterous from the start. Even if Manhattan and friends had ended the Vietnam war in a week, there is no way that would lead to the repeal of the 22nd Amendment and the multiple re-electing of the president in power at that time. But the story needed a reason to exist, so it got one.

Cut to the movie. I still didn't like the story, but it was well done. I liked all the actors, especially Carla Gugino who surprised me by playing the 67-year-old mom. I understand that one director who was considered said he'd only do it if he could make a miniseries.

The over-the-top violence didn't bother me, nor did the sex scene or even Manhattan's lack of inhibition. I thought it was kind of disjointed, and a lot of it needed to be either less, or more, depending on what you wanted to take out of it. I loved 'Archie', and the fact that they didn't even try to explain how 'he' worked. Very reminiscent of the Blue Beetle's 'Bug', and taken directly from it.

I liked a lot of little things they did with the movie, but on the whole I thought it was overdone and not worth the money. But then I felt the same way about Sin City and The Spirit. Maybe the Director's or even the Extended cut will be better.

[Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Blacklight

Comic books aren't for kids anymore.

Many never were and are!

[Jimbuna]

Is this the sequal to 'Free Willy'

[SS107.9MHz]

POINT 1. Alan Moore is one of the most acomplished interesting and downwright genial writer's in comics/novels and performance acts. He's also quite a funny and preposterous guy at tat.
POINT 2. It is impossible to realistically adapt ANY of the major comic books Alan Moore ever wrote to film, nless producers are prepare to ingress in a major series of fims/sequels.
POINT 3.Any single film trying this will either fall short of the book it adapts (if it's good, wich hasn't be the case in any of them), or be a total mockery of the core of the written works (which is exactly wha happened with: "From Hell (the 2nd worst adaptation)","V for Vendetta"(a loosely based adaptation on a book of the same name...and also an entertaining, if hollow, film) and the just laughable LOEG movie adaptation, which isn't even worth talking about. And I don't even won't to remember "Swamp Thing" the movie, from the 80' (UGH...)

That said, bare in mind that seeing Watchmen might be the first movie that DOESN't make a complete hash of things, but also won't be anythin like the masterpiece that the graphic novel is...and it really is. It's just a compromise of fanboys and a big studio production cashconverter. Think of a "MAUS" adapted to cinema by Disney or Pixar... you'll get an idea.

Untill HBO ge's the rights to adapt even a single Moore book, I'll be keeping my fingers crossed.

PS:now reading "Voice in The Fire", it seems pretty good, but not my favourite, at least comparing with "Snakes & Ladders"... And "FROM HELL" is a mandatory piece of work.

[Max2147]

I saw the movie despite never having seen a single frame of the graphic novel. I thought it was decent. It certainly wasn't great, but I didn't feel like I wasted my money. I followed it well enough to get what was going on. And yes, Rorschash was a bada**. His "You're all locked in here with me" line in the prison was awesome.

My friend is a huge fan of the graphic novel, and ironically his overall opinion of the movie was similar to mine. He said it was as faithful to the novel as it could have possibly been, to the point that most of the lines were verbatim from the novel. In some ways that might have hurt it as a movie, since some things that work in a graphic novel don't work as well in a live action movie, but I think fans of the novel will be pleased at how faithful it was.

My only real gripe was the hideous sex scene. You know your sex scene is bad when half the audience is cringing and half the audience is laughing out loud at it. The end of the scene was legitimately funny though.

[Etienne]

Originally Posted by Max2147

My only real gripe was the hideous sex scene. You know your sex scene is bad when half the audience is cringing and half the audience is laughing out loud at it. The end of the scene was legitimately funny though.

I just saw it tonight, and I have to agree. That sex scene was just so out of the blue.

Also, the length of the thing. GAH! I'm sure there was a good movie somewhere in that miniserie! Seriously, the pace was just so plodding at time, I think it would have been better split into two movies... But then I suppose that would have caused variations from the source material.

It was okay for me, but it didn't make me a fan...

[SS107.9MHz]

G-ddamit had a huge post to add and my cat just jumped on the keyboard and sent me to my home page! ARGHHHHH!!

Well since _Idon't have the time or willingness to rewrite everything that I had I'lljust post a link for a review I found on one of my favourite music/movie review sites,Tiny Mix Tapes. Just to point out that I believe it's not a bad movie, it's just that it's impossible to acount for all the richness and complexity of the stories when in the movie the premise follows a simple A-to-B storyline. In the novel the maskmen killler plot is just a thread that allows for the character to be developed...for instance Rorschach in the movie,´is lke a antihero badass, kind of like another side of the Comedian... In the novel he's a pathetic shell of a man, who only lives thru the skin of his masked pesona, an allienated man who's only contact with humankind is through breaking and entering in his former colleague, a retired and depressed ex-superhero... Rorschach as resigned of his humanity, hes a bitter and cold man, because he was never loved, living in fantasy since his childhood, in order to escape the gruesomness of his own life... He's the most tragic of the character's, he is no man, just a mask, almost to the end...well and that's just a sample of the lackings of the adaptation...

So, if you liked the movie, buy the book! If you didn't...just another reason to buy it!