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Old 03-06-09, 12:55 PM   #28
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Whatever, have the last word on the issue if you feel the urgend need to.

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Originally Posted by Aramike
But here's another example of the way you and I obviously approach the question differently:
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I have a problem with christians rather accepting holocaust deniers then liberals within their ranks, as happend here just recently with the catholic church.
*I* would have said that I have a problem with PEOPLE who ... I wouldn't ascribe such idiocy to a large group who, by and large, don't agree with this extremism.

Frankly, I often find close-minded atheists use any excuse to condemn religion, although it is individuals deserving of that condemnation. But I guess that's easier...
Let's give you some facts:

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/129591

This whole affair caused some great controversy over here, in which quite a couple bishops made clear critique of the pope, at all, is unasked for. Only after immense public pressure and after way to long a time did the church comply and acted accordingly.

My original statement was no generalisation put here out of spite, but based on some real and very recent happenings. This together with repeated abuse of children, and I think the US has their own stories to tell in this regard, and consequent "protection" of such folks by the church, makes this quite a bit more then just unbased prejudice.

Frankly, I often find close-minded religion supporters use any excuse to defend religion and put the blames on individuals, if at all, although it is the whole group responsible for the actions of their members while beeing in service for that group. But I guess that's easier...
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