AI Torpedoes - Page 2

Graf Paper · 02-28-09, 10:14 PM

That's why I admire you, BBW. You stick to the proper spirit of things.

Best of luck to you and your team and I hope someday to have even half of your skills.

jean74 · 03-01-09, 02:50 AM

Hi Racerboy,

I just want to thank you for this another great JOB.

And thank you for all your explanations.

Best regards

Jean

bookworm_020 · 03-01-09, 04:41 AM

If this mean that the AI subs can do more than be a floating target, excellent!!!

Nice work Racerboy!

coronas · 03-01-09, 05:53 AM

Another step beyond. Downloading.
Thanks!

03-01-09, 05:54 AM

I hate to say this Racerboy but its crapiest mod ever

TheDarkWraith · 03-01-09, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Contact

I hate to say this Racerboy but its crapiest mod ever

Please don't hold back. Would you care to explain why you feel this way? Did you read the very first post that explains how unrealistic this is?

bigboywooly · 03-01-09, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020

If this mean that the AI subs can do more than be a floating target, excellent!!!

Nice work Racerboy!

Sergs VIIA ( VIIC clone ) could fire " AI torps " too
Using shells instead of torps - not sure of the speed they travelled but something close to this mod
As do his PT boats
Easier on the eye from a submerged sub

Jimbuna · 03-01-09, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Graf Paper

That's why I admire you, BBW. You stick to the proper spirit of things.

Best of luck to you and your team and I hope someday to have even half of your skills.

Hi Graf

(in an English context) I don't think you realise how true your words are seeing as how BBW is a Leeds United supporter

@Racerboy (and written purely in a personal capacity)

Did you ever consider a parent object that would be slower in terms of travel than a shell?

TheDarkWraith · 03-01-09, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Using shells instead of torps - not sure of the speed they travelled but something close to this mod
Easier on the eye from a submerged sub

that's how this one works, using shells. The torp is piggybacked to the shell and stuck at a certain depth to give the illusion of a real torpedo. When the shell splashes into the water a DC is created that very quickly falls to the depth of the 'torpedo' and explodes giving the illusion of torpedo explosion.
What do you mean by easier on the eye from a submerged sub?

TheDarkWraith · 03-01-09, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Did you ever consider a parent object that would be slower in terms of travel than a shell?

I looked for anything that could give a more realistic speed but couldn't find anything. What comes to mind?
I made the launcher originally to use the wpn_SubTorpedoSys controller and it would render in game but wouldn't rotate or fire. If I can get it to rotate (actively targeting something) then that would be one giant step forward to using real torpedoes. I'm playing with that original idea again as it never hurts to go back and try old ideas.
In the \data\Library\guns.dat file there is a quad and a triple launcher from the devs. The groundwork was laid by them but never completed.

tater · 03-01-09, 09:26 AM

Note that the statement of getting a "real" torpedo to work was for SH4, not SH3. SH4 has functional AI torpedoes (air-dropped) to start with.

TheDarkWraith · 03-01-09, 10:05 AM

I'm open to any and all ideas you all. If you think you have a way of doing this better or have an idea then please post it. There is no stupid idea or question.

Graf Paper · 03-01-09, 11:08 AM

I'm not sure if targeting can be done due to the "incomplete" AI in the SH3 engine but it would seem there may be some sort of way to cobble together a working torpedo by cloning the player sub torpedoes and tweaking them to work with the AI launchers.

Which files are you looking into, Racerboy? I don't know hex or assembly, but maybe I can puzzle some things out with S3D as an aid.

Perhaps some specifics or screenshots of the node/controller data in question would also be a benefit to all who wish to help tackle this.

Jimbuna, I like how you English love your football ( soccer, to us heathens ). It reminds me of how American football is pursued with a religious fervor in the southern U.S., where I grew up. The movie, "Friday Night Lights", is no exaggeration in this respect! I suppose we're all "hooligans" deep inside.

bigboywooly · 03-01-09, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Racerboy

What do you mean by easier on the eye from a submerged sub?

I mean as the sub is submerged - unless you are watching it on ext cam - you wont notice a lack of torp
Just explosions on the mercs in convoy

@ Tater
Yes SH4 does have an air drop AI torpedo
But no torpedos fired from destroyers\MTBs or AI subs

Awful Smutje · 03-01-09, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Graf Paper

I'm not sure if targeting can be done due to the "incomplete" AI in the SH3 engine but it would seem there may be some sort of way to cobble together a working torpedo by cloning the player sub torpedoes and tweaking them to work with the AI launchers.

If this won't work, maybe you can create a invisible Patrol Boat and piggyback a torpedo on it? I really don't know if this will work, but if it works, the torps may have a more realistic speed. And if it's attatched to the PT, it may be easier to solve the problem that they won't hit at greater distances, if you can get the ships (torps) AI to ram its actual target.

Hope this helps a little.
Good luck with it!

02-28-09, 10:14 PM	#16
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	That's why I admire you, BBW. You stick to the proper spirit of things. Best of luck to you and your team and I hope someday to have even half of your skills. __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

03-01-09, 02:50 AM	#17
jean74 Medic Join Date: May 2006 Location: Near Lake Leman and Geneva, FRANCE Posts: 162 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 0	Many thanks Hi Racerboy, I just want to thank you for this another great JOB. And thank you for all your explanations. Best regards Jean

03-01-09, 04:41 AM	#18
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	If this mean that the AI subs can do more than be a floating target, excellent!!! Nice work Racerboy! __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

03-01-09, 05:53 AM	#19
coronas Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Asturias, España Posts: 1,168 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Another step beyond. Downloading. Thanks! __________________

03-01-09, 11:08 AM	#28
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	I'm not sure if targeting can be done due to the "incomplete" AI in the SH3 engine but it would seem there may be some sort of way to cobble together a working torpedo by cloning the player sub torpedoes and tweaking them to work with the AI launchers. Which files are you looking into, Racerboy? I don't know hex or assembly, but maybe I can puzzle some things out with S3D as an aid. Perhaps some specifics or screenshots of the node/controller data in question would also be a benefit to all who wish to help tackle this. Jimbuna, I like how you English love your football ( soccer, to us heathens ). It reminds me of how American football is pursued with a religious fervor in the southern U.S., where I grew up. The movie, "Friday Night Lights", is no exaggeration in this respect! I suppose we're all "hooligans" deep inside. __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

03-01-09, 05:54 AM	#20
Contact Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I hate to say this Racerboy but its crapiest mod ever

03-01-09, 09:26 AM	#26
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Note that the statement of getting a "real" torpedo to work was for SH4, not SH3. SH4 has functional AI torpedoes (air-dropped) to start with.

03-01-09, 10:05 AM	#27
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	I'm open to any and all ideas you all. If you think you have a way of doing this better or have an idea then please post it. There is no stupid idea or question.