688(i) Hunter Killer, years later

Robsoie · 02-26-09, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacklight

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But what Sub Commands does not have anymore for some reason is :
-distinct sounds in the broadband in the sonar for more than just torpedoes (as Sonalyst lowered apparently a lot those specific sounds in a Sub Command patch so most of the time you don't hear the difference with the garbage noise and so must only use the visual of the waterfall) . In 688 the "hearable" sounds gives the sonar station a more interesting feel, as the waterfall is certainly very usefull, but being able to hear the sound yourself contribute even more to the immersion.

That's odd. I get those sounds in my Sub Command and I'm upgraded to the latest patch. Did you check to see if you had the audio turned on at the switch at the Broadband station ? Also, check the sound settings in the Options as well. You may have one of the sound channels tuned too low to hear against the other sounds. You should easily be able to hear audio generated by anything that's making a noise out there.

Here's the audio settings I use:
Music: Off
Voice Response 6 1/2
3D Sound 5 1/2
Sound Effects 2 1/2

(When I set them to their default, I've found that certain audio completely overpowers other audio, especially an incomming ping which I was afraid would blow my speakers !)
Anyway. Those are the settings that work the best for me.

Thanks will try to tweak around those settings.
But i think if you can hear ships and subs sounds inside of the garbage noise of the sonar, it must be a soundcard problem on my end maybe, as the only sounds i can hear in the garbage background sounds are :
-torpedoes
-explosions
-hull cracks from destroyed ships/subs falling
-pings

But nothing more, while in 688(i) Hunter Killer i can hear all these inside the broadband garbage noise too, but in the same time i can hear the various surface vessels, and more faintly submarines (as long as there is a trace in the waterfall, i can't hear them if they are not catched by either towed array or sphere sonars) when i move my detection bar in broadband to their direction.

grover · 07-07-09, 06:51 AM

Thats exactly the way I feel Robsoie. Im wanting to get back into sub simming, and while i bought DW, SC, and almost every other naval sim thats come since 688i, nothing has sucked me into the campiagn like it, or Silent Hunter 1. I just loved 688i. I do wonder if playing it again will kind of ruin the legend but its worth trying. I might just install now and have a go on works laptop (hehe)

Robsoie · 07-07-09, 07:46 PM

Yes the campaign of 688 is way superior to SC without any contest in term of immersion. And regarding gameplay, the score system is really rewarding with the possibility to use it to get upgrades, this is then allowing different take on the same missions, like if you in fact used new subs or prototypes.

That helps to workaround the fact there is only 1 submarine, as with some of the upgrades, you can by example pretend to be inside a seawolf.

Another interesting superior thing in 688 over SC is as i said in a previous post the sounds of -every- engines (even the subs) that can be heard in the broadband (faintly for the subs though), allowing you to actually use your ears as much as the graphics. like a sonar guy would do in a real sub.

Unfortunately in SC, Sonalyst lowered (a very lot) some of those engine sounds in one of the last patches, so much that you can't hear anymore any sub engine with the parasites sound covering them.
This sound management in 688 really contribute to the sub feeling.

I believe always nowadays, the game in itself is good, but it is true that visually it is old with its low res. An high res version would do wonders.

But it is always a risk to replay old favorites, sometime as you said your memory is so great that actually going to replay can result in a disapointement.

688 patched up to the latest version works very good on my XP (with the 688 executable set to window98 compatibility and disable visual theme checked)

grover · 07-07-09, 07:52 PM

Well I installed last night (well about 1am this morning) and had a quick play and its fine. I dont mond the dated graphics at all. Running on Windows 7 using XP compatibility and the updated win2k DLLs. No problems so far.

Does anyone know if it can be played in a window like SC?

zakarpatska · 02-17-10, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by grover

Well I installed last night (well about 1am this morning) and had a quick play and its fine. I dont mond the dated graphics at all. Running on Windows 7 using XP compatibility and the updated win2k DLLs. No problems so far.

Does anyone know if it can be played in a window like SC?

You can install virtualization software such as qemu/vmware/virtualbox. Then you can run a virtual Windows machine and play 688i on the virtual machine. It will be nicely windowed for you though at a fixed 640x480 window size.

This is what I do on my Linux laptop using a vrtual WindowsXP machine running under qemu. It works great.

zakarpatska · 05-30-10, 03:52 PM

Does anyone have 688i working in virtual box under Ubuntu? The logo with the picture of the submarine comes up, but then all I get is a black screen. I've tried both virtualbox and virtualbox-ose. It worked well under qemu, so I'm not sure what this issue is.

WolfFlight · 12-02-11, 05:06 PM

I just found rereleased copies.

The game was repackaged for Windows7 in 2010.

I just bought 2 copies. One for me, and one for a friend of mine.

I can't wait to rediscover the fantastic fun I had with this game years ago.

The game is available on Amazon.com as well.

12-02-11, 05:06 PM	#7
WolfFlight Nub Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Just bought it again I just found rereleased copies. The game was repackaged for Windows7 in 2010. I just bought 2 copies. One for me, and one for a friend of mine. I can't wait to rediscover the fantastic fun I had with this game years ago. The game is available on Amazon.com as well.

07-07-09, 06:51 AM	#2
grover Watch Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 15 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Thats exactly the way I feel Robsoie. Im wanting to get back into sub simming, and while i bought DW, SC, and almost every other naval sim thats come since 688i, nothing has sucked me into the campiagn like it, or Silent Hunter 1. I just loved 688i. I do wonder if playing it again will kind of ruin the legend but its worth trying. I might just install now and have a go on works laptop (hehe)

07-07-09, 07:46 PM	#3
Robsoie Machinist's Mate Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 130 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yes the campaign of 688 is way superior to SC without any contest in term of immersion. And regarding gameplay, the score system is really rewarding with the possibility to use it to get upgrades, this is then allowing different take on the same missions, like if you in fact used new subs or prototypes. That helps to workaround the fact there is only 1 submarine, as with some of the upgrades, you can by example pretend to be inside a seawolf. Another interesting superior thing in 688 over SC is as i said in a previous post the sounds of -every- engines (even the subs) that can be heard in the broadband (faintly for the subs though), allowing you to actually use your ears as much as the graphics. like a sonar guy would do in a real sub. Unfortunately in SC, Sonalyst lowered (a very lot) some of those engine sounds in one of the last patches, so much that you can't hear anymore any sub engine with the parasites sound covering them. This sound management in 688 really contribute to the sub feeling. I believe always nowadays, the game in itself is good, but it is true that visually it is old with its low res. An high res version would do wonders. But it is always a risk to replay old favorites, sometime as you said your memory is so great that actually going to replay can result in a disapointement. 688 patched up to the latest version works very good on my XP (with the 688 executable set to window98 compatibility and disable visual theme checked)

07-07-09, 07:52 PM	#4
grover Watch Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 15 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Well I installed last night (well about 1am this morning) and had a quick play and its fine. I dont mond the dated graphics at all. Running on Windows 7 using XP compatibility and the updated win2k DLLs. No problems so far. Does anyone know if it can be played in a window like SC?

05-30-10, 03:52 PM	#6
zakarpatska Loader Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 88 Downloads: 127 Uploads: 0	Does anyone have 688i working in virtual box under Ubuntu? The logo with the picture of the submarine comes up, but then all I get is a black screen. I've tried both virtualbox and virtualbox-ose. It worked well under qemu, so I'm not sure what this issue is.