The Fabric for the Federal Goverment vs the states continues to deteriorate

Originally Posted by Aramike

You have to remember - "killing" in and of itself isn't always a bad thing. If you defensively kill someone who broke into your home to rape your wife, for example, that's not a bad thing. Often times you see people who say "guns kill" then rest their case as though it's just that simple.

Guns are certainly capable of killing, but that very attribute gives them other powers as well. Guns can act as a deterrent, for instance, thereby actually PREVENTING bloodshed. Guns can level the playing field as well, by giving the "weak" as much of a chance to defend their rights against an invader as the "strong" has.

And frankly, people should realize that the only peace that has even been known throughout modern human history is one created at gun point.

Killing is always a bad thing, no matter if done voluntarily or because one is forced to do so. Sometimes, and if only in pure self defense, it is nessecary, but that does not make it "not a bad thing" at all. I certainly see where you are coming from, but you talk as if the development of the atomic bomb and the subsequent cold war was "not a bad thing" as it prevented an actual third world war starting. That may be so, but "not bad", nope, that does not quite fit it.

Using guns and having the feel of needing to defend ones own home is not healthy, neither for the individuals mind neither for a society as a whole. And frankly, I do not see the the american founding fathers, ppl I actually have the greaest respect for, foreseeing a paranoid society with a huge crime scene and citizens living in fear from their government and their neighbours alike.

What you guys look at in such discussions all the time is the current situation, not cause and effect and long term effects.