Qualifications: what do you do? - Page 2

irish1958 · 02-20-09, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Annatar

Medics are something I rarely seem to have. Most injuries my crew have suffered have been instantly fatal so I've never seen the use.

Currently working on a mod to give the Medic (sorry Pen) some balls

tomfon · 02-20-09, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones

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Originally Posted by Weiß Pinguin

Note that the quals and awards you give your crew via SH3C won't show up ingame, but they do get all the benefits.

Hmmm, that's not quite what it says on page 17 of the SH3 Commander User Guide.

Quals for the officers will always show up.
Extra Quals (i.e. more than one) for the petty officers won't show up.
Quals (no matter how many) for the sailors won't show up...

As far as i can remember.

irish1958 · 02-20-09, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tomfon

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Originally Posted by JScones

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Originally Posted by Weiß Pinguin

Note that the quals and awards you give your crew via SH3C won't show up ingame, but they do get all the benefits.

Hmmm, that's not quite what it says on page 17 of the SH3 Commander User Guide.

Quals for the officers will always show up.
Extra Quals (i.e. more than one) for the petty officers won't show up.
Quals (no matter how many) for the sailors won't show up...

As far as i can remember.

Yes they do; they just have no effect. RTFM

Jimbuna · 02-20-09, 03:51 PM

Yep, using SH3Commander and giving the PO's and Crew 3 qualifications each (the max allowed) means only the first assigned to a PO is taken into account and none of the Crew make any difference at all.

What does work every time is the additional stamina and experience they obtain at the end of each patrol.

tomfon · 02-21-09, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by irish1958

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Originally Posted by tomfon

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Originally Posted by JScones

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Originally Posted by Weiß Pinguin

Note that the quals and awards you give your crew via SH3C won't show up ingame, but they do get all the benefits.

Hmmm, that's not quite what it says on page 17 of the SH3 Commander User Guide.

Quals for the officers will always show up.
Extra Quals (i.e. more than one) for the petty officers won't show up.
Quals (no matter how many) for the sailors won't show up...

As far as i can remember.

Yes they do; they just have no effect. RTFM

Yes you're right. I just messed things up. Memory failure and i have RTFM.

Redbear · 02-28-09, 10:12 AM

I normally go for the radio/sonar qual first. Maybe a machine qual next. I've tried the gunnery qual, but haven't seen much improvement in skill, so I've pretty much given up on it. Always get a repair qual or two before I get too late in the war - I know I'll need it eventually! Then I just fill in back-ups for them all as best I can.

Chisum · 02-28-09, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Steeltrap

I'm interested in hearing what you choose to do in terms of qualifications: what do you have in your boat, and in what order do you acquire them?

At first, radio & detection crew.
It's essential.

At second Security, it's essential to.

About the officer I build quickly an officer who is specific specialist for watching(the gold star) Guns and FLAK.

This is my 3 priority.

KeptinCranky · 02-28-09, 06:47 PM

About the Medic...

It's true that crewmen (and officers) are more likely to end up dead than injured, but I've seen it happen ocassinally, the medic helps a lot with getting the injured crewman ready for duty again, this is especially important if it's your watch officer who got injured

Injured (and panicked) crew (the ones with red exclamation points) are ready for duty all the quicker for having a qualified medic on your boat...

There is a downside though, because even if the medic miraculously patched up your crewman's injury, he will not receive a "verwundetenabzeichen" when you get back to base. The only way to get that medal in SH3 is to return to port while the crewman is still injured....which seems needlessly harsh to me...

If crewmen get injured, and that happens a lot because I don't crashdive for every plane, especially when I have a big Flakvierling taking up space on the back of the boat, I normally give them a verwundetenabzeichen using SH3 commander

irish1958 · 02-28-09, 07:56 PM

Actually, in my testing, the medic has little or no effect in getting rid of the red exclamation point next to the icon of the affected crew member due to fatigue or low morale (at least in vanilla SH3, NYGM mod and Grey Wolf mods). His only real effect is on the injured crew, and it is a major effect. This was not implemented in SH3 or SH4 and the medic has as much effect on the game as a bull without his equipment does in a cow pasture. (Sorry Pen).
In real life, patrols had an average of three incidents involving the health and well being of the crew per patrol. Many patrol were aborted due to accidents, injury and/or illness (at least in the USN). I don't read German well, but a few patrol reports I have read show about the same level of problems in the U-Boats.
Unfortunately, I have access only to the USN Pacific medical reports of the patrols.
I really hope our mod is successful as it will add a bit of realism to the game.
The working title of our mod is "the medic really has balls." (Sorry Pen)

Chisum · 03-01-09, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by irish1958

The working title of our mod is "the medic really has balls." (Sorry Pen)

A mod ?
Compatible GWX 3.0 ?
Where can I found it ?

Jimbuna · 03-03-09, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chisum

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Originally Posted by irish1958

The working title of our mod is "the medic really has balls." (Sorry Pen)

A mod ?
Compatible GWX 3.0 ?
Where can I found it ?

Here....allow me to pick you one

difool2 · 03-03-09, 06:37 PM

Jimbuna I'd say that's brig material-I'd edit it quick if I were you...

Chisum · 03-04-09, 06:58 AM

Lol Jim, you are in manual mod !

Hanomag · 03-04-09, 08:55 AM

1st patrol return, I max out the sonar man give him every medal and promote him.

That way I can give the radio operator the day off.... for the remainder of the war! (oh.. the immersion)

02-20-09, 03:51 PM	#19
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,844 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Yep, using SH3Commander and giving the PO's and Crew 3 qualifications each (the max allowed) means only the first assigned to a PO is taken into account and none of the Crew make any difference at all. What does work every time is the additional stamina and experience they obtain at the end of each patrol. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-28-09, 07:56 PM	#24
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	Actually, in my testing, the medic has little or no effect in getting rid of the red exclamation point next to the icon of the affected crew member due to fatigue or low morale (at least in vanilla SH3, NYGM mod and Grey Wolf mods). His only real effect is on the injured crew, and it is a major effect. This was not implemented in SH3 or SH4 and the medic has as much effect on the game as a bull without his equipment does in a cow pasture. (Sorry Pen). In real life, patrols had an average of three incidents involving the health and well being of the crew per patrol. Many patrol were aborted due to accidents, injury and/or illness (at least in the USN). I don't read German well, but a few patrol reports I have read show about the same level of problems in the U-Boats. Unfortunately, I have access only to the USN Pacific medical reports of the patrols. I really hope our mod is successful as it will add a bit of realism to the game. The working title of our mod is "the medic really has balls." (Sorry Pen) __________________ Irish1958

03-04-09, 06:58 AM	#28
Chisum Seasoned Skipper Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bastogne, Belgium Posts: 716 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Lol Jim, you are in manual mod ! __________________ [http://simus-paradise.forumactif.com/silent-hunter-iii-f12/

03-04-09, 08:55 AM	#29
Hanomag Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: LI NY Posts: 964 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	1st patrol return, I max out the sonar man give him every medal and promote him. That way I can give the radio operator the day off.... for the remainder of the war! (oh.. the immersion) __________________ "Only if I can save first..."

02-28-09, 10:12 AM	#21
Redbear Engineer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 208 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	I normally go for the radio/sonar qual first. Maybe a machine qual next. I've tried the gunnery qual, but haven't seen much improvement in skill, so I've pretty much given up on it. Always get a repair qual or two before I get too late in the war - I know I'll need it eventually! Then I just fill in back-ups for them all as best I can.

02-28-09, 06:47 PM	#23
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	About the Medic... It's true that crewmen (and officers) are more likely to end up dead than injured, but I've seen it happen ocassinally, the medic helps a lot with getting the injured crewman ready for duty again, this is especially important if it's your watch officer who got injured Injured (and panicked) crew (the ones with red exclamation points) are ready for duty all the quicker for having a qualified medic on your boat... There is a downside though, because even if the medic miraculously patched up your crewman's injury, he will not receive a "verwundetenabzeichen" when you get back to base. The only way to get that medal in SH3 is to return to port while the crewman is still injured....which seems needlessly harsh to me... If crewmen get injured, and that happens a lot because I don't crashdive for every plane, especially when I have a big Flakvierling taking up space on the back of the boat, I normally give them a verwundetenabzeichen using SH3 commander

03-03-09, 06:37 PM	#27
difool2 Commander Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 459 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Jimbuna I'd say that's brig material-I'd edit it quick if I were you...