[WIP] Cold War Mod

tomagabriel · 02-18-09, 06:27 AM

yep 7 scythe blades ... I have used it in my model ... have to post some progress screen ... hope not to forget ...

Did anyone play or hear others play with flying torpedoes in SHIV? Can it be done? If so, we could make a Harpoon/Exocet mod. It doesn't have to fly high. Just a few meters above water. Then, hopefully, one should only tweak the guidance. Dreaming ...

keltos01 · 02-18-09, 08:30 AM

I have, since I made a few torpedo mods I thought about missiles...

I tried to give a torpedo a positive depth in the .sim, so as to be able to change it if necessary, but no matter what, like the mines out of decoys, they spawn at the water surface not above...

What I didn't try yet is to modify an axisting torpedo in 3DS actually raising it a few feet, reimporting it in S3D, and setting depth to 0 when firing.

keltos

punkmaster98 · 02-18-09, 03:56 PM

could somebody maybe develop the SUBROC?

tomagabriel · 02-19-09, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by keltos01

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What I didn't try yet is to modify an axisting torpedo in 3DS actually raising it a few feet, reimporting it in S3D, and setting depth to 0 when firing.

keltos

Keltos my man, that might be our solution. It might look weird during launch I think, but the rest of the time will be ok. So, it should be tested. About the weirdness during launch, do you know if the attitude of the torp can be changed during launch? More inclined, steeper climb, faster ejection speed from tube. Sorry for the many questions, presently I am not near my SHIV PC.

keltos01 · 02-19-09, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tomagabriel

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Originally Posted by keltos01

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What I didn't try yet is to modify an axisting torpedo in 3DS actually raising it a few feet, reimporting it in S3D, and setting depth to 0 when firing.

keltos

Keltos my man, that might be our solution. It might look weird during launch I think, but the rest of the time will be ok. So, it should be tested. About the weirdness during launch, do you know if the attitude of the torp can be changed during launch? More inclined, steeper climb, faster ejection speed from tube. Sorry for the many questions, presently I am not near my SHIV PC.

If it works, then like a normal torpedo it should go down to the altitude specified in the .sim, like my Kaiten goes up from 4 to 0.5 m.

If you can shoot it in the air, then we can make/import an exocet or harpoon model.

keltos

Sledgehammer427 · 02-19-09, 07:08 PM

actually, IIRC it didnt matter how many blades it had, if you notice, that prop is freaking monstrous, as low RPMs causes less cavitation than a tiny blade rotating fast.
thats why our daddys fishing boat could be heard from a mile away.
and thats why we cant hear a nuke sub doing 20 knots until it hits us (no pun intended

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keltos01 · 02-20-09, 04:31 AM

I tried raising the torpedo model in 3DS, when I use the new torpedous.dat in game my tubes are empty

- all torpedoes expended Sir ! -

but when we only change the Y value in the .sim, the torpedo never spawns above the surface.. neither did the mines actually, even when set at +15 m!

keltos

Werewolf · 02-20-09, 05:46 AM

@Kiwi

Sorry for the long response time to your reply, but I have been away for some days. What you show there is exactly what I have tried to do, but no matter what the value is set for, the submerged range remains the same

even if set for 3000 nm! I still only get 70-80 nm of maximum submerged range and NO I am NOT running at flank speed

The only difference I am able to see is that the longer I set the submerged range, the longer time it takes to recharge the battery.....something is obviously screwed up

What really puzzles me is that I downloaded a nuke sub to see how they did it. With the Le Terrible installed for example I am able to travel for days and days at high speeds so obviously what they did worked, but as soon as I make these changes to one of my own boats, nothing happens. Not even the stock type XXI can travel near the 340 nm it's supposed to, even an electro boot can only run for 70-80 nm submerged......

I've never seen anything like it.....as they say in Germany, Verdamt!!!

View Poll Results: What time period would you like the Cold War Mod to encompass?
Early Cold War: 1947 to the early 1960s	148	14.18%
Mid Cold War: 1960s to 1980s	195	18.68%
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02-18-09, 06:27 AM	#1
tomagabriel Machinist's Mate Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 122 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 3	yep 7 scythe blades ... I have used it in my model ... have to post some progress screen ... hope not to forget ... Did anyone play or hear others play with flying torpedoes in SHIV? Can it be done? If so, we could make a Harpoon/Exocet mod. It doesn't have to fly high. Just a few meters above water. Then, hopefully, one should only tweak the guidance. Dreaming ... Last edited by tomagabriel; 02-18-09 at 06:37 AM.

02-18-09, 08:30 AM	#2
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	I have, since I made a few torpedo mods I thought about missiles... I tried to give a torpedo a positive depth in the .sim, so as to be able to change it if necessary, but no matter what, like the mines out of decoys, they spawn at the water surface not above... What I didn't try yet is to modify an axisting torpedo in 3DS actually raising it a few feet, reimporting it in S3D, and setting depth to 0 when firing. keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

02-19-09, 07:08 PM	#6
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,908 Downloads: 287 Uploads: 0	actually, IIRC it didnt matter how many blades it had, if you notice, that prop is freaking monstrous, as low RPMs causes less cavitation than a tiny blade rotating fast. thats why our daddys fishing boat could be heard from a mile away. and thats why we cant hear a nuke sub doing 20 knots until it hits us (no pun intended ) __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

02-20-09, 04:31 AM	#7
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	I tried raising the torpedo model in 3DS, when I use the new torpedous.dat in game my tubes are empty - all torpedoes expended Sir ! - but when we only change the Y value in the .sim, the torpedo never spawns above the surface.. neither did the mines actually, even when set at +15 m! keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

02-18-09, 03:56 PM	#3
punkmaster98 Gunner Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Suny Maritime Posts: 92 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	could somebody maybe develop the SUBROC?

02-20-09, 05:46 AM	#8
Werewolf Sonar Guy Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 394 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	@Kiwi Sorry for the long response time to your reply, but I have been away for some days. What you show there is exactly what I have tried to do, but no matter what the value is set for, the submerged range remains the same even if set for 3000 nm! I still only get 70-80 nm of maximum submerged range and NO I am NOT running at flank speed The only difference I am able to see is that the longer I set the submerged range, the longer time it takes to recharge the battery.....something is obviously screwed up What really puzzles me is that I downloaded a nuke sub to see how they did it. With the Le Terrible installed for example I am able to travel for days and days at high speeds so obviously what they did worked, but as soon as I make these changes to one of my own boats, nothing happens. Not even the stock type XXI can travel near the 340 nm it's supposed to, even an electro boot can only run for 70-80 nm submerged...... I've never seen anything like it.....as they say in Germany, Verdamt!!!