Illegals to sue Arizona man !

[SteamWake]

Cant you people discuss a topic without personal sniping and idelog?

How this turned into a political posturing session Ill never know.

[Weiss Pinguin]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Cant you people discuss a topic without personal sniping and idelog?

How this turned into a political posturing session Ill never know.

Welcome to the internets. Best thing to do is settle down with popcorn and a drink and enjoy the show. Please be sure all cellphones are silenced, of course.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Are you being that way for a reason? Go back to worshiping Reagan.

Even us "Liberals" agree that this is an open and shut case for the farmer. He has a right to defend his property and the illegals are obviously trying to make it easier for others to get in.

You might agree but your representatives generally don't. Case-in-point; New York and California, two of the most liberal states in the union in terms of percentage of population of registered Democrats, have the most complex legal systems of any state, in terms of number of regulations and pages of text.

It all comes from Liberals thinking that they are smart enough to tell other people what to do.

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

How do you know that. How do you know this Judge did not take it to set a legal precedent. It happens all the time.

Instead of blaming "liberals" how about researching how this rancher can defend in court.

I agree that its possible that the judge is simply attempting to set a precedent. In fact, I believe that this may be the case.

However, I was referring to the overall problem of the leftist judiciary which has allowed tort and the ACLU to run amok over the last decade.

[Platapus]

Wow, did not take long for this thread to go down the crapper.

Before we get all spun up on this, why don't we wait to see what the jury actually decides based on the evidence?...evidence that we don't have access to.


It is possible, just possible that Fox News and the Wash Times may not be reporting the full story or reporting the story with a bias.

According to http://www.borderaction.org/images/3%20lawsuits.pdf This is not the first time Mr Barnett has run into trouble due to his vigilante activities.

It is possible that there is more to this story...

An Internet article search on Barnett comes up with some interesting tidbits.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Wow, did not take long for this thread to go down the crapper.

Before we get all spun up on this, why don't we wait to see what the jury actually decides based on the evidence?...evidence that we don't have access to.


It is possible, just possible that Fox News and the Wash Times may not be reporting the full story or reporting the story with a bias.

According to http://www.borderaction.org/images/3%20lawsuits.pdf This is not the first time Mr Barnett has run into trouble due to his vigilante activities.

It is possible that there is more to this story...

An Internet article search on Barnett comes up with some interesting tidbits.

Yes indeed 'racisist' comments... Hindering those 'immagrents' whom seek a better life. Perhaps some of them are looking for opportunity, however I remind you that not all have such nobel intentions. Indeed there is some very very nasty things going on at that border.

Look this guy has turned over nearly 1,200 illegal ailens. Yes you read that right over 1,000. Not all of these have been mexican, a number of middle eastern have been picked up as well. Now why would a middle eastern person choose to enter the US through nefarious means?

Some of the ailens have done things like break into his house, crap on his porch, destroy his property.

That might get me a little upset too. I might just say some bad words.

Yes we have to wait to see what the jury decides. My point is WTF is this even doing in the court system. If the GD goverment was doing its job in the first place it wouldent be some rancher having to 'detain' over a thousand trespassers.

Yes indeed 'racisist' comments...

None of those really relate to racist comments , just because he is a dumb redneck who doesn't know the law it doesn't instantly mean that he is a racist .

So threatening to kill , assault and battery , false imprisonmemnt and impersonating a police officer ...yet some here are all too eager to defend this dumb idiot .
If he cannot play border vigilante without breaking the law then he shouldn't play border vigilante .

If the GD goverment was doing its job in the first place it wouldent be some rancher having to 'detain' over a thousand trespassers.

If you want the government to do its job then sign yourself up for a big tax increase , its a long border and its an expensive job to try and keep it secure .

Now why would a middle eastern person choose to enter the US through nefarious means?

You might have a point there , after all its not like the 9/11 murderers got into the States on visas is it .

[FIREWALL]

Hey ! What's all the Hoopla about. Any fool knows the...

USA is the land of Oportunity and Quick Riches.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

None of those really relate to racist comments , just because he is a dumb redneck who doesn't know the law it doesn't instantly mean that he is a racist .

So threatening to kill , assault and battery , false imprisonmemnt and impersonating a police officer ...yet some here are all too eager to defend this dumb idiot .
If he cannot play border vigilante without breaking the law then he shouldn't play border vigilante .

If you want the government to do its job then sign yourself up for a big tax increase , its a long border and its an expensive job to try and keep it secure .

You might have a point there , after all its not like the 9/11 murderers got into the States on visas is it .

Un freakin beleavible... yea if I had dozens of people trespassing on my property day in and day out, tearing it up, defacating on my porch... Hell yes I would do all of the above... and probably worse. Of course the 'media' will do all in their power to paint this guy in a jaded light. It is after all what they do. But for Christ's Sakes... its his personal property. Or at least it is for now.

As I said before there lucky this dident happen in texas... God forbid they stumble onto Nuget's ranch.

As to the visas ... that was then this is now.

Hell yes I would do all of the above... and probably worse.

Then you would be rather silly . Unless of course you had a really really good lawyer that could convince a court that by breaking the law you were not really breaking the law .

As I said before there lucky this dident happen in texas...

Its a free country , if he doesn't like the laws in the State where he rents the grass then he can rent some grass in Texas . Then again unless this Texas you refer to is the mythical texas not the real one then he would still be facing charges for breaking its State laws .

Un freakin beleavible...

Yes it is rather . Unbelievable that people will defend the illegal actions of this idiot .

[August]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Then again unless this Texas you refer to is the mythical texas not the real one then he would still be facing charges for breaking its State laws

What makes you such an expert on Texas state law Irishman?

[longam]

He better start looking out the other side of his house because the tide is changing.

http://www.examiner.com/x-751-Immigrant-Community-Examiner~y2008m10d31-Immigrant-return-home-as-economy-sours

[Kapt Z]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Illegals to sue an Arizona man after he stopped them from trespassing on his ranch.

Good thing this dident happen in texas.

Anyhow can anyone explain to me why this would even make it into court?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,490084,00.html

Yeah, that is crazy.

Probably easier for him in the long run to sell his ranch and move.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

if he doesn't like the laws in the State where he rents the grass then he can rent some grass in Texas

"Rent"... :rotfl: :rotfl:

That kind of explains a lot actually.

[1480]

Just a thought. We need this rancher on that wall.....

Seriously, a citizen has the right to use reasonable amount of force to detain a criminal until law enforcement arrive. Holding criminals by gun point and canine is not an unreasonable action.