Microsoft's (lack of) committment to PC gaming

Enigma · 02-04-09, 05:25 PM

I'd actually read that 5 more FSX expansion packs would be released this year.

Which actually doesn't effect me, as I'm still using the far superior FS2004....

SteamWake · 02-04-09, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma

I'd actually read that 5 more FSX expansion packs would be released this year.

Which actually doesn't effect me, as I'm still using the far superior FS2004....

Here we go again....

Enigma · 02-04-09, 05:59 PM

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Here we go again....

Care to share?

SteamWake · 02-04-09, 07:20 PM

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Here we go again....

Care to share?

The old 'which version is better' debate.

Ive seen it turn ugly on other forums.

All the features you mention specifically ILS, approaches, procedure turns... Does FS2004 have a 'procedures' page in its GPS? No ? /shrug.

I really dont see a hell of a lot of difference between the two other than graphics and steep system requirements. Sometimes you just prefer what your used to.

Its akin to sayin SH3 is better than SH4.... meh there both good play the one YOU like.

surf_ten · 02-04-09, 07:48 PM

The only thing that keeps me playing PC games are the ease of which PC games can be modded and the keyboard/Mouse interface. Okay, I guess PC games I tend to play don't appeal to today's twitchy, attention deficit generation.

FIREWALL · 02-04-09, 08:04 PM

I'm not going to get into a pissing contest.

In FSX there's a tutorial for every system.

Over at avsim.com FS9 is the bigboy but, alot is being converted to FSX.

Sorry but FS2004 is going the way of the dodo.

MS gave out the SDK and said have at it.

You can do anything you want to FSX but, make MONEY off it.

Enigma · 02-04-09, 07:50 PM

Yeah, you wont see it get ugly from me. That seems a bit silly.

I use all my own approach plates, procedures, etc. Also, there is several modded GPS units available, both free & payware that have everything the SR-22 I fly has in it....

My biggest peeve with FSX are the all virtual cockpits with equipment that I found unreadable or unusable...

SteamWake · 02-04-09, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma

Yeah, you wont see it get ugly from me. That seems a bit silly.

I use all my own approach plates, procedures, etc. Also, there is several modded GPS units available, both free & payware that have everything the SR-22 I fly has in it....

My biggest peeve with FSX are the all virtual cockpits with equipment that I found unreadable or unusable...

How can you NOT like the virtual cockpits

Two words my friend "Dual Monitors"

Ive been flying flightsim since version one. Have over 100 hours in a VA (Captain Rank) I just prefer FSX but many others there dont.

Again its a matter of taste.

But this thread took a fork in the road somewhere so Ill let it go at that.

By the way if anyone wants to know which VA I fly for its Livewire.

Enigma · 02-04-09, 10:26 PM

Been on flightsim since day one myself. My Dad got me into it as a scamp. Haha...

Love virtual cockpits, just love 'em in FS2004.

Big VA guy myself. Fly for DCA (50 some hours) , and Execjet (over 200 hours). used to fly for Eastern, Was one of the first 20 pilots with with Metro, and co founded Capitol before it went under some years ago. (flying Coniies. Was great!)
Dual monitors? Got 'em.

Don't get on Vatsim much anymore though. Don't have the time....but, back in the early days, I was on there allll the time...

Real airplanes? about 600 hours.

August · 02-05-09, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Two words my friend "Dual Monitors"

I'll go one better "triplehead2go"

http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/products/gxm/th2go/

longam · 02-04-09, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma

I'd actually read that 5 more FSX expansion packs would be released this year.

Which actually doesn't effect me, as I'm still using the far superior FS2004....

PFFFT try again. FSX rocks... on a system that rocks... steamwake

Enigma · 02-04-09, 06:46 PM

Oh, my system is more than up to the task. FSX was too much of a video game and not enough of a flight simulator for me. Sure, it's prettier. If that's what your going for, FSX is the way to go.....I use FS2004 for procedure, instrument approaches, training, etc....

So, I stuck to FS2004. I felt it a much better simulation. And, I get to compare it to the real world, being a pilot and all. There's no right or wrong, only preference...

Maybe one day I'll PFFFt try again. Whatever that means....

Task Force · 02-08-09, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by longam

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Originally Posted by Enigma

I'd actually read that 5 more FSX expansion packs would be released this year.

Which actually doesn't effect me, as I'm still using the far superior FS2004....

PFFFT try again. FSX rocks... on a system that rocks... steamwake

Never liked the FS damage model though. I hate just getting that (aircraft crashed, or airframe overstressed.) I want my wings to rip off!!! (and a better damage model.)

I have ran a plane at 100% for a half hour and the motor dosent seem to overheat.

FIREWALL · 02-08-09, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Enigma

I'd actually read that 5 more FSX expansion packs would be released this year.

Which actually doesn't effect me, as I'm still using the far superior FS2004....

PFFFT try again. FSX rocks... on a system that rocks... steamwake

Never liked the FS damage model though. I hate just getting that (aircraft crashed, or airframe overstressed.) I want my wings to rip off!!! (and a better damage model.)

I have ran a plane at 100% for a half hour and the motor dosent seem to overheat.

The Modders over at Avsim.com and other sites are fixing that and a whole lot of other things.

" MS gave out the SDK and said have at it.

You can do anything you want to FSX but, make MONEY off it "

geetrue · 02-10-09, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Task Force

Never liked the FS damage model though. I hate just getting that (aircraft crashed, or airframe overstressed.) I want my wings to rip off!!! (and a better damage model.)

I have ran a plane at 100% for a half hour and the motor dosent seem to overheat.

MS FSX teams more than likely thought of that and the subject had to be part of any serious development at the higher levels ...

Sick people want to crash and see the damage not only to the flight sim, but to the surrounding area, buildings etc, etc.

I suspect they went with the 12 year old not becoming a twisted youth in order to have the finished product the way it is presently moded.

I hit that blimp more than once wanting to see it crash in flames, but nay not in MSFS's.

02-04-09, 05:25 PM	#1
Enigma The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: At comms depth, obviously. Posts: 1,476 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	I'd actually read that 5 more FSX expansion packs would be released this year. Which actually doesn't effect me, as I'm still using the far superior FS2004.... __________________ "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain

02-04-09, 08:04 PM	#6
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	I'm not going to get into a pissing contest. In FSX there's a tutorial for every system. Over at avsim.com FS9 is the bigboy but, alot is being converted to FSX. Sorry but FS2004 is going the way of the dodo. MS gave out the SDK and said have at it. You can do anything you want to FSX but, make MONEY off it. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

02-04-09, 07:50 PM	#7
Enigma The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: At comms depth, obviously. Posts: 1,476 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Yeah, you wont see it get ugly from me. That seems a bit silly. I use all my own approach plates, procedures, etc. Also, there is several modded GPS units available, both free & payware that have everything the SR-22 I fly has in it.... My biggest peeve with FSX are the all virtual cockpits with equipment that I found unreadable or unusable... __________________ "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain

02-04-09, 10:26 PM	#9
Enigma The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: At comms depth, obviously. Posts: 1,476 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Been on flightsim since day one myself. My Dad got me into it as a scamp. Haha... Love virtual cockpits, just love 'em in FS2004. Big VA guy myself. Fly for DCA (50 some hours) , and Execjet (over 200 hours). used to fly for Eastern, Was one of the first 20 pilots with with Metro, and co founded Capitol before it went under some years ago. (flying Coniies. Was great!) Dual monitors? Got 'em. Don't get on Vatsim much anymore though. Don't have the time....but, back in the early days, I was on there allll the time... Real airplanes? about 600 hours. __________________ "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain

02-04-09, 06:46 PM	#12
Enigma The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: At comms depth, obviously. Posts: 1,476 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Oh, my system is more than up to the task. FSX was too much of a video game and not enough of a flight simulator for me. Sure, it's prettier. If that's what your going for, FSX is the way to go.....I use FS2004 for procedure, instrument approaches, training, etc.... So, I stuck to FS2004. I felt it a much better simulation. And, I get to compare it to the real world, being a pilot and all. There's no right or wrong, only preference... Maybe one day I'll PFFFt try again. Whatever that means.... __________________ "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain

02-04-09, 07:48 PM	#5
surf_ten Loader Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 90 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	The only thing that keeps me playing PC games are the ease of which PC games can be modded and the keyboard/Mouse interface. Okay, I guess PC games I tend to play don't appeal to today's twitchy, attention deficit generation.