Badly Damaged - crew won't repair

PurpleCity · 01-29-09, 02:23 AM

I'm sitting in a harbor badly damaged, hull damage ~85%.

I have no diesel engines, the damage report shows diesel engines at 17% damage, however the crew will not repair anything. I've tried moving crew around, setting repair priorities, etc...

I've been sitting here for several days but nothing is repaired. If I could just fix the dang engines I could limp back to port.

this a bug?

Hmuda · 01-29-09, 03:07 AM

Did you turn on the repair crews as well? I mean from the HUD and not just moving them into the repair team slots?

AngronIsAngry · 01-29-09, 03:26 AM

Is your damage control team activated and or rested? Often it is the simple things.

RSColonel_131st · 01-29-09, 05:03 AM

There's a bug (at least in 1.5) where they stop repairing for no reason. Save and reload should work.

JonB · 01-29-09, 05:17 AM

I think that if you have "Silent Running" activated, the crew wont repair as this makes too much noice...

SteamWake · 01-29-09, 11:05 AM

Couple of things...

Firstly the hull cannot and will not be repaired untill you return to your home base.

If systems are damaged beyond repair ... well they wont get repaired. Currently there is no way to know they are beyond repair except that they dont get repaired

If in fact your diesels are damaged beyond repair its time to load up a previous save.

As mentioned make sure you dont have silent running called for as they wont do anything while its active.

Lastley make sure you havent been at battle stations for 3 days

turn battle stations off and let the crew get some rest.

PurpleCity · 01-29-09, 12:12 PM

Thanks, I'll try that save & reload technique and post back.

The port diesel engine is 17% damage, the starboard is perfectly fine.
but still no diesel engines.

My electrical engines work fine, however if I dive I ain't coming back up. is it possible to use electrical engines on surface?

Most of my crew is pink but health is around 90% for most crew members

SteamWake · 01-29-09, 12:24 PM

The silly game treats the sub as if it only has two engines... Somehow if one gets damaged the other wont work as well :hmm:

No you cant run on the surface on electrics, yes you can run on electrics and still surface but without diesels you will not be able to recharge and you will be stuck there.

My first guess is that you left battle stations on for a couple of days and everyone is exhausted... too tired to lift a wrench so to speak.

groomsie · 01-29-09, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PurpleCity

Thanks, I'll try that save & reload technique and post back.

The port diesel engine is 17% damage, the starboard is perfectly fine.
but still no diesel engines.

My electrical engines work fine, however if I dive I ain't coming back up. is it possible to use electrical engines on surface?

Most of my crew is pink but health is around 90% for most crew members

Why do you feel you "ain't coming back up" if you dive? If concerned with hull damage you are right to be, but if you stay at or above PD I'd *think* you would be fine (but pay attention to signs this may not be the case).

You can't run on electrics on surface, but for what you want to do try submerging to say 30', or until you hear the diesels stop (or the electrics start). That is your depth, basically running with decks awash. Now, your speed will be low but if you want/need to move away from the area while trying to work out the diesel issue it should work for you.

Otherwise do verify the status of battlestations, crew fatigue, damage control team activation, and silent running.

I have encountered "unreported damage" where I thought a system was completely functional and in fact it was not operational or repairable (torpedo tubes, and I did not find out until I was desperately needing them--lost the boat because I was counting on them being available when they were not). If for some reason that starboard engine is only showing 100% and isn't, well, nothing you can do.

Also, check for damage to shafts (may want to scroll back to see damage reports) and other related systems.

Good luck shipmate!

Elder-Pirate · 01-29-09, 02:55 PM

Press the "Y" key, and look for your engines. If in red I think you better swim.

If not red them shut every thing down ( no battle stations, no silent running, no anything, even shut down radar ) Give everyone a 48 hour rest. Unless your in enemy territory then you still may have to swim ?

Best place to check though ( as said before ) is push the "Y" key and scroll all. I'm sure you'll find something besides the hull being all shot up. Otherwise WATCH out for those

PurpleCity · 01-29-09, 09:27 PM

Saving and loading worked, kinda...

After resuming, my crew instantly went to work on repairs and flooding. All crew members are healed and everything is now repaired except for the hull (88%)

...However I still have no diesel engines. I loaded a replay to take a look and the propellers and rudder are still intact.

This must be a bug...

Elder-Pirate · 01-30-09, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PurpleCity

Saving and loading worked, kinda...

After resuming, my crew instantly went to work on repairs and flooding. All crew members are healed and everything is now repaired except for the hull (88%)

...However I still have no diesel engines. I loaded a replay to take a look and the propellers and rudder are still intact.

This must be a bug...

I doubt it is a bug ( but could be ? ) anyway as I said in my previous post push the "Y" key and read all. Here are two old examples of mine, one of a boat in top shape and the other is heading for Davey Jones or will be a short time after the pic was shot.

Top pic shows nothing wrong ( think I was looking for a stuck torpedo door? ) but lordy all hell breaks loose on the second pic.

My engines ( diesel ) have had it ( at least two of them ) Notice the FULL red bars on the right hand side of two of the engines, they ARE gone beyond repair.
Propeller shaft over half red bar, other prop shaft almost half a red bar ( probably bent? ).

Two diesel engines show full red bars ( fully destroyed ) the other two diesels just started the red in the bar but SH4 doesn't seem to understand there are more than one diesel on the boat ( they had to be thinking U-Boats at the making ).

This last pic shows running on electric engines @ 3 kts. Two electric engines are in grey ( good shape ) but #3 is starting the red bar and #4 probably the same but it needs scrolling down to see it. Bow batteries starting to go as they are getting the red bar started. ( I remember they did go still when at 166 feet then a little while later it was: Hello Davey Jones, how are ya?

OK, that was just a taste of boat trouble you can get into in SH4 so don't always call it a bug. The SH4 Dev's did a very good job for what they were allowed to do.

WELL did you have to swim or are you on the way to port?

PurpleCity · 01-30-09, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elder-Pirate

I doubt it is a bug ( but could be ? ) anyway as I said in my previous post push the "Y" key and read all. Here are two old examples of mine, one of a boat in top shape and the other is heading for Davey Jones or will be a short time after the pic was shot.

Top pic shows nothing wrong ( think I was looking for a stuck torpedo door? ) but lordy all hell breaks loose on the second pic.

Initially I was quite damaged, however after a day of repairs, the only thing damaged was the torpedo tube. deisiel engines were 100% working, however still no movement.

I saved the game in case it is a bug - but I believe the appropriate term is "abandon ship"

Elder-Pirate · 01-30-09, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurpleCity

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elder-Pirate

I doubt it is a bug ( but could be ? ) anyway as I said in my previous post push the "Y" key and read all. Here are two old examples of mine, one of a boat in top shape and the other is heading for Davey Jones or will be a short time after the pic was shot.

Top pic shows nothing wrong ( think I was looking for a stuck torpedo door? ) but lordy all hell breaks loose on the second pic.

Initially I was quite damaged, however after a day of repairs, the only thing damaged was the torpedo tube. deisiel engines were 100% working, however still no movement.

I saved the game in case it is a bug - but I believe the appropriate term is "abandon ship"

Go back to the save one more time for if diesels 100% and everything else seaworthy (except the hull as that is a home port repair only ) check on your men. After Working a few days on repairs they ( engine grew ) will not obey your command until they are fully rested then your boat will move. If you do get it moving keep checking your fuel very close for you probably have a fuel leak with some of your hull gone, if so keep hitting the fuel stops.

Course you can always call a water taxi. ( Yeah right )

PurpleCity · 01-31-09, 11:39 PM

unless there's something I'm missing - I don't see anything wrong with my diesel engines. (electrical work fine)

01-29-09, 02:23 AM	#1
PurpleCity Loader Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 87 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	Badly Damaged - crew won't repair I'm sitting in a harbor badly damaged, hull damage ~85%. I have no diesel engines, the damage report shows diesel engines at 17% damage, however the crew will not repair anything. I've tried moving crew around, setting repair priorities, etc... I've been sitting here for several days but nothing is repaired. If I could just fix the dang engines I could limp back to port. this a bug?

01-29-09, 03:07 AM	#2
Hmuda Electrician's Mate Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 133 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	Did you turn on the repair crews as well? I mean from the HUD and not just moving them into the repair team slots? __________________

01-29-09, 02:55 PM	#10
Elder-Pirate Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Morris, Illinois USA Posts: 1,090 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Press the "Y" key, and look for your engines. If in red I think you better swim. If not red them shut every thing down ( no battle stations, no silent running, no anything, even shut down radar ) Give everyone a 48 hour rest. Unless your in enemy territory then you still may have to swim ? Best place to check though ( as said before ) is push the "Y" key and scroll all. I'm sure you'll find something besides the hull being all shot up. Otherwise WATCH out for those __________________

01-29-09, 03:26 AM	#3
AngronIsAngry Mate Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 53 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	Is your damage control team activated and or rested? Often it is the simple things. __________________ "No Boom?" "No Boom, today. Maybe Boom tomorrow. Things always go Boom!"

01-29-09, 05:03 AM	#4
RSColonel_131st Medic Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 164 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	There's a bug (at least in 1.5) where they stop repairing for no reason. Save and reload should work.

01-29-09, 05:17 AM	#5
JonB Bosun Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Halmstad, Sweden Posts: 69 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I think that if you have "Silent Running" activated, the crew wont repair as this makes too much noice...

01-29-09, 11:05 AM	#6
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Couple of things... Firstly the hull cannot and will not be repaired untill you return to your home base. If systems are damaged beyond repair ... well they wont get repaired. Currently there is no way to know they are beyond repair except that they dont get repaired If in fact your diesels are damaged beyond repair its time to load up a previous save. As mentioned make sure you dont have silent running called for as they wont do anything while its active. Lastley make sure you havent been at battle stations for 3 days turn battle stations off and let the crew get some rest.

01-29-09, 12:12 PM	#7
PurpleCity Loader Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 87 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	Thanks, I'll try that save & reload technique and post back. The port diesel engine is 17% damage, the starboard is perfectly fine. but still no diesel engines. My electrical engines work fine, however if I dive I ain't coming back up. is it possible to use electrical engines on surface? Most of my crew is pink but health is around 90% for most crew members

01-29-09, 12:24 PM	#8
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	The silly game treats the sub as if it only has two engines... Somehow if one gets damaged the other wont work as well :hmm: No you cant run on the surface on electrics, yes you can run on electrics and still surface but without diesels you will not be able to recharge and you will be stuck there. My first guess is that you left battle stations on for a couple of days and everyone is exhausted... too tired to lift a wrench so to speak.

01-29-09, 09:27 PM	#11
PurpleCity Loader Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 87 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	Saving and loading worked, kinda... After resuming, my crew instantly went to work on repairs and flooding. All crew members are healed and everything is now repaired except for the hull (88%) ...However I still have no diesel engines. I loaded a replay to take a look and the propellers and rudder are still intact. This must be a bug...

01-31-09, 11:39 PM	#15
PurpleCity Loader Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 87 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	unless there's something I'm missing - I don't see anything wrong with my diesel engines. (electrical work fine)