What kills you?

SteamWake · 01-17-09, 10:57 AM

Greed usually

Red Lord of Chaos · 01-17-09, 01:37 PM

Betty usually, by the time the things go over the deck is awash but the tower is still above the waves. Even if I'm not killed outright the damage takes me later when I'm forced deep.
Most entertaining near death was in an IX, nearly sunk by an exploding merchant! 49% hull damage, took both 'scopes and popped 4 bulkheads along with other systems. Only the aft torp room and tower were dry and about half of the crew were wounded... Somehow I limped into Surubaya...

Travis Reed · 01-17-09, 03:19 PM

Gonna hafta go with shallow water, subnets, mines, and tiny islands you don't even see...

Then of course...there's the blind lookouts not informing me of land based guns (also in shallow water)...

I really hate the Marshalls and now refuse to patrol there...everytime I go, the weather is bad...or the waves are high...and I end up dying mysteriously while patrolling with TC up (no higher then 1024, and usually closer to 512). One time I know it was shore guns as it pulled me out of TC after the initial hit (which doomed me...). It's rather nice how the lookouts are blind...

I think the last one was due to a subnet, but I can't be certain...

tater · 01-17-09, 05:54 PM

Travis, if you are playing a modded campaign, like RSRD, the Atolls in the Marshalls--and elsewhere---are actually atolls. A primary failing of the stock game, is that there were NO REEFS. What good is an anchorage like Truk, for example, when it is open to the wide sea?

Back with the first major campaign rewrite, I populated the atolls with subnets to fill in for the missing reefs. Carotio, using Ref's terrain tool made Truk a proper atoll by raising tiny islands where the reefs should be. I think that the Marshalls retain my subnets, plus many many more added by lurker in RSRDC. Heck, lurker might have simply redone all of them himself.

Long story short is that if you use RSRDC, the marchals have reefs, and should you plot a course THROUGH any atoll, you will hit a subnet at 10 knots, and sink.

jazzabilly · 01-17-09, 06:30 PM

Yes, Tater I found those subnets when I tried to pop a stationary merch. in Kwajalein. About 25 sec. or so after firing I heard "torpedo impact....torpedo impact" and saw two ghysers of water only about 500 yds in front of my boat. I had a good laugh over that and pulled away.

Soundman · 01-18-09, 10:31 AM

Yep, I hit one of those nets at night once. Took me a while to figure out what had happened.

JonB · 01-18-09, 12:23 PM

hm, I never come across any subnets... Are they in the TMO as well?

Would be cool to hit one someday, just to know, lol. And I´ve never seen any mines neither. I probably must patrol more shallow waters by the sound of it.

otto69 · 01-21-09, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzabilly

Yes, Tater I found those subnets when I tried to pop a stationary merch. in Kwajalein. About 25 sec. or so after firing I heard "torpedo impact....torpedo impact" and saw two ghysers of water only about 500 yds in front of my boat. I had a good laugh over that and pulled away.

If you sink slowly to 200 ft. and proceed very slow , you can go under the sub net. Then the stationary ship can be sunk. I think the net is to deep, but it was fun to go under it. I found this out as I was trying to get close to the ships. Going very slow, then I ran into it. Went to emergency reverse and changed camera view to out side. And low and behold ,there is the net.

Otto

Pvt. Public · 01-21-09, 02:54 PM

i havent had SH4 for very long, only been killed twice. once i was waiting for a small convoy to come to me. i was ahead of them in firing position all stop and silent at night. i poke a scope up to have a peek as they were getting closer and saw no sign of suspicion. so i upped the time compression a tad. next thing i know the escort closest to me drives over my tower in a depth charge run.
the other wasnt much of a death... i escaped 4 destroyers with a destroyed rudder. that made me mad more than anything else thats happened.

01-17-09, 01:37 PM	#2
Red Lord of Chaos Watch Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 25 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Betty usually, by the time the things go over the deck is awash but the tower is still above the waves. Even if I'm not killed outright the damage takes me later when I'm forced deep. Most entertaining near death was in an IX, nearly sunk by an exploding merchant! 49% hull damage, took both 'scopes and popped 4 bulkheads along with other systems. Only the aft torp room and tower were dry and about half of the crew were wounded... Somehow I limped into Surubaya... __________________ \'Ere\'s ta swimmin\' wit\' bow legged women!

01-17-09, 03:19 PM	#3
Travis Reed Planesman Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 186 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	Gonna hafta go with shallow water, subnets, mines, and tiny islands you don't even see... Then of course...there's the blind lookouts not informing me of land based guns (also in shallow water)... I really hate the Marshalls and now refuse to patrol there...everytime I go, the weather is bad...or the waves are high...and I end up dying mysteriously while patrolling with TC up (no higher then 1024, and usually closer to 512). One time I know it was shore guns as it pulled me out of TC after the initial hit (which doomed me...). It's rather nice how the lookouts are blind... I think the last one was due to a subnet, but I can't be certain... __________________ Laptop: Alienware m15 (2019) \| CPU: Core i7 9750H 2.6 GHz \| RAM: 32 GB DDR4 2666 \| dGPU: GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB \| OS: Win 10 x64

01-17-09, 06:30 PM	#5
jazzabilly Planesman Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 186 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Yes, Tater I found those subnets when I tried to pop a stationary merch. in Kwajalein. About 25 sec. or so after firing I heard "torpedo impact....torpedo impact" and saw two ghysers of water only about 500 yds in front of my boat. I had a good laugh over that and pulled away. __________________ If it's a fair fight, then you didn't plan it properly. ====================================

01-18-09, 10:31 AM	#6
Soundman Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 617 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	Yep, I hit one of those nets at night once. Took me a while to figure out what had happened. Last edited by Soundman; 01-18-09 at 01:45 PM.

01-17-09, 10:57 AM	#1
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Greed usually

01-17-09, 05:54 PM	#4
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Travis, if you are playing a modded campaign, like RSRD, the Atolls in the Marshalls--and elsewhere---are actually atolls. A primary failing of the stock game, is that there were NO REEFS. What good is an anchorage like Truk, for example, when it is open to the wide sea? Back with the first major campaign rewrite, I populated the atolls with subnets to fill in for the missing reefs. Carotio, using Ref's terrain tool made Truk a proper atoll by raising tiny islands where the reefs should be. I think that the Marshalls retain my subnets, plus many many more added by lurker in RSRDC. Heck, lurker might have simply redone all of them himself. Long story short is that if you use RSRDC, the marchals have reefs, and should you plot a course THROUGH any atoll, you will hit a subnet at 10 knots, and sink.

01-18-09, 12:23 PM	#7
JonB Bosun Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Halmstad, Sweden Posts: 69 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	hm, I never come across any subnets... Are they in the TMO as well? Would be cool to hit one someday, just to know, lol. And I´ve never seen any mines neither. I probably must patrol more shallow waters by the sound of it.

01-21-09, 02:54 PM	#9
Pvt. Public Seaman Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 39 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	i havent had SH4 for very long, only been killed twice. once i was waiting for a small convoy to come to me. i was ahead of them in firing position all stop and silent at night. i poke a scope up to have a peek as they were getting closer and saw no sign of suspicion. so i upped the time compression a tad. next thing i know the escort closest to me drives over my tower in a depth charge run. the other wasnt much of a death... i escaped 4 destroyers with a destroyed rudder. that made me mad more than anything else thats happened.