Why mod SH3 and not SH4? - Page 7

Carotio · 01-16-09, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fincuan

Thanks, and luck is certainly needed when I return. I just sunk a Danish merchant... and the year is still 1939.

You better don't do that EVER again, or I'll come and smack my VIKING axe in your head...

PS: Just kidding

asanovic7 · 01-16-09, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by reallydedpoet

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Originally Posted by asanovic7

It is easy to explain that..

It is polishing a nice, good old game with some things that are missing to her..
Ah, you cannot understand..
:rotfl:

C'mon asanovic, we all know you are a closet SH4 player, time to come out :p

RDP

Man, I thought for 10 mins how to answer on that..

:rotfl::rotfl:

Never!!

sh3 is better!

edit:
Have done some reading of this thread..

It looks to me like sh4 is kinda bollocki compared to sh3, only one thing stands out and that is graphic?
But that's why we polished sh3, right?

SHIPS APPEARING BEFORE HARBOUR!?

Man, not even I don't have a decent bucket to play, nor do I want.. Even with possible gwx.. It's like das boot..
You can make new movies (u 572?) with brilliant effects, BUT which movie regardless of effects offers better sub atmosphere??

A6Intruder · 01-16-09, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by asanovic7

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Originally Posted by reallydedpoet

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Originally Posted by asanovic7

It is easy to explain that..

It is polishing a nice, good old game with some things that are missing to her..
Ah, you cannot understand..
:rotfl:

C'mon asanovic, we all know you are a closet SH4 player, time to come out :p

RDP

Man, I thought for 10 mins how to answer on that..

:rotfl::rotfl:

Never!!

sh3 is better!

edit:
Have done some reading of this thread..

It looks to me like sh4 is kinda bollocki compared to sh3, only one thing stands out and that is graphic?
But that's why we polished sh3, right?

SHIPS APPEARING BEFORE HARBOUR!?

Man, not even I don't have a decent bucket to play, nor do I want.. Even with possible gwx.. It's like das boot..
You can make new movies (u 572?) with brilliant effects, BUT which movie regardless of effects offers better sub atmosphere??

Well spoken, good old comrade

Kind regards

AVGWarhawk · 01-16-09, 02:32 PM

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It's like das boot..
You can make new movies (u 572?) with brilliant effects, BUT which movie regardless of effects offers better sub atmosphere??

Neither. I like Das Boot and U572 story line was just rubbish. Periscope Down, now that was great!

Jimbuna · 01-16-09, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lagger123987

I like both, but I only like SH3 because it's stable enough, SH4 is on the buggy side, but hopefully the 4th installment of GWX can be in SH4, but not sure about the name for the new expansion since Grey Wolves is an U-boat name, anyone knows the nicknames for US subs?

Just noticed your question (the first part)...the answer is on my sig

01-16-09, 04:36 PM

SH 3 is my training grounds.
Nearly everything I'm doing is, or will be, easily moved to SH 4
SH 4 is hard on my system, but I still look at things.
The early animation work for Life Boats gave me an insight to the
animations for SH 4 as one example.
I've not been far away from mod work for SH 4 since day one of it's release.

But I study the things I want from a different angle then most.
There are few things in SH 4 that can not be discovered in SH 3

A diving Sub for SH 3 will work in SH 4.
AI Torpedos for SH 3 will work in SH 4.
Flooding Compartments for SH 3 will work for SH 4.

See my point of view?

urfisch · 01-16-09, 06:42 PM

sure, understand. privateer...i always like your way of working on things. keep it.

regarding former posts...i guess the topic has gone a bit offshore...?

AVGWarhawk · 01-16-09, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by urfisch

sure, understand. privateer...i always like your way of working on things. keep it.

regarding former posts...i guess the topic has gone a bit offshore...?

Off shore? Not really, SH4 has been modded from day one. It had to be. Many people have been itching their heads with SH3. These folks learned how to mod the game into something decent and special. Does not really make sense to mod something for years then just up and drop it. No, now is the time to benefit from the rewards....actually playing it. Seeing the smiles on the users face. It is the same deal with the guys who mod SH4. OM, RFB, TMO, PE4 and EE 5.0. The guys have been going at SH4 for over /close to two years now. Each folk has a different stroke. Some just like this and some just like that. But, as seen in this thread, SH4 is modded already and to quite a great extent. It is a shame however, that SH4 requires a lot of juice to run with any clarity. Some people just do not have the money to upgrade. So instead of being a sour lemon, these folks got vodka and work on/play SH3. No on can find fault there at all. Hell, I was the same when I loaded SH4 the day it came out. After about an hour of watching a slideshow, I robbed a few convience stores and got a new vid card/PSU. This year I got a entire new rig. It is a sick habit but it beats smoking crack on the street corner.

01-16-09, 07:21 PM

:rotfl:

asanovic7 · 01-17-09, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

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Originally Posted by urfisch

sure, understand. privateer...i always like your way of working on things. keep it.

regarding former posts...i guess the topic has gone a bit offshore...?

Off shore? Not really, SH4 has been modded from day one. It had to be. Many people have been itching their heads with SH3. These folks learned how to mod the game into something decent and special. Does not really make sense to mod something for years then just up and drop it. No, now is the time to benefit from the rewards....actually playing it. Seeing the smiles on the users face. It is the same deal with the guys who mod SH4. OM, RFB, TMO, PE4 and EE 5.0. The guys have been going at SH4 for over /close to two years now. Each folk has a different stroke. Some just like this and some just like that. But, as seen in this thread, SH4 is modded already and to quite a great extent. It is a shame however, that SH4 requires a lot of juice to run with any clarity. Some people just do not have the money to upgrade. So instead of being a sour lemon, these folks got vodka and work on/play SH3. No on can find fault there at all. Hell, I was the same when I loaded SH4 the day it came out. After about an hour of watching a slideshow, I robbed a few convience stores and got a new vid card/PSU. This year I got a entire new rig. It is a sick habit but it beats smoking crack on the street corner.

Spoken like a true prodigy..

Faamecanic · 01-17-09, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by reallydedpoet

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Originally Posted by asanovic7

It is easy to explain that..

It is polishing a nice, good old game with some things that are missing to her..
Ah, you cannot understand..
:rotfl:

C'mon asanovic, we all know you are a closet SH4 player, time to come out :p

Edit: Since you added more to your post, I had to include this for others to see, it's a play on the "closet" thing

Captain Cox, one of the great early modders of SH4 did it.

RDP

That pic just ISNT right for many reasons (being cooped up in a steel tube for months with him being the first reason)

:rotfl: :rotfl:

SeaWolf U-57 · 01-17-09, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by StarLion45

Honestly everyone

This looking good , like SH4 , doesn't it:hmm:

Ho yes great pic ....NOT

this is more like it

rascal101 · 01-17-09, 05:55 PM

Is simple and I dont want to offend any one, SH4 has great graphics, but game play isnt all that good, plus the Pacific dont interest the folks doing all the work on SH3, hence the relative lack of mods

I've tried the SH$ and find that no matter what mod I try the japs never really come looking for me, there is no challenge, also, as the war progressed the Japs got weeker, and while there was some development re anti sub technology, there wasnt so much as the Allies in the Atlantic, so the real challenge with SH3 is to actually stay alive as the Allies get better.

With SH4 there is no such challenge and despite its great graphics no real challenge as the war progresses

Please dont all yell at me is jhust my opinion, and we're all entitled to our opinions

CWorth · 01-17-09, 06:47 PM

Well let me use a comparison I am familiar with since it has been what I have been playing more for the last few years with Silent Hunter games in between.

Take World of Warcraft..I simply love the game.Good graphics and a very immersive game and story been playing for 3 1/2 yrs now.

Now take the newer Conan game and you have better graphics but a very sucky gameplay and story line in comparison to WoW and loaded with game killing bugs and flaws.

SH3 to SH4 is what WoW is to Conan.

SH3 is the far better game even though it is a bit older in graphics but it more than makes up for it in gameplay and immersion.Just like WoW is better than Conan.

01-18-09, 01:14 AM

this thread is very funny :rotfl:

if you want to compare sh3 to sh4 then lets truely compare them.

take STOCK sh3 and compare to stock sh4 and sh3 is a load of crap with just as many bugs as sh4.

those who deny this are simply refusing to admit the truth.

sh3 has had a long time and has taken hundreds and hundreds of mods to become what it is today with GWX 3.

anyone who gives sh4 an objective new look with the mods it has available today will not have much to complain about. it is what you make it.

the truth is, if most of the critics of sh4 would get off their lazy duffs and stop waiting for someone else to make the game better for them, then they themselves could be part of what makes sh4 and the new sh4 GWX mod something special. all it takes is a little time and just a little effort for ANYONE to learn most if not all modding tricks.

just ask yourself this, if everyone said screw sh3 im not going to play it until 5 years from now when GWX3 is made, it would have never been made and neither would any of the mods you love today.

sh4 and sh3 are the same game files for the most part, they just have different game engines so if it floats your boat to only play sh3 then delete the entire sh4 files and replace them completely with sh3 files to take sh3 to places it could never go as it is. think about all the new modding possabilities that would present.

like it or not sh3 has gone as far as it can go and its fully matured in its old game engine so a tweak here or there is all your ever going to see from now on.

01-16-09, 06:42 PM	#97
urfisch Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deep down in Germany Posts: 1,969 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	sure, understand. privateer...i always like your way of working on things. keep it. regarding former posts...i guess the topic has gone a bit offshore...? __________________

01-17-09, 05:55 PM	#103
rascal101 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 769 Downloads: 200 Uploads: 0	An answer Is simple and I dont want to offend any one, SH4 has great graphics, but game play isnt all that good, plus the Pacific dont interest the folks doing all the work on SH3, hence the relative lack of mods I've tried the SH$ and find that no matter what mod I try the japs never really come looking for me, there is no challenge, also, as the war progressed the Japs got weeker, and while there was some development re anti sub technology, there wasnt so much as the Allies in the Atlantic, so the real challenge with SH3 is to actually stay alive as the Allies get better. With SH4 there is no such challenge and despite its great graphics no real challenge as the war progresses Please dont all yell at me is jhust my opinion, and we're all entitled to our opinions

01-16-09, 04:36 PM	#96
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	SH 3 is my training grounds. Nearly everything I'm doing is, or will be, easily moved to SH 4 SH 4 is hard on my system, but I still look at things. The early animation work for Life Boats gave me an insight to the animations for SH 4 as one example. I've not been far away from mod work for SH 4 since day one of it's release. But I study the things I want from a different angle then most. There are few things in SH 4 that can not be discovered in SH 3 A diving Sub for SH 3 will work in SH 4. AI Torpedos for SH 3 will work in SH 4. Flooding Compartments for SH 3 will work for SH 4. See my point of view?

01-16-09, 07:21 PM	#99
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	:rotfl:

01-17-09, 06:47 PM	#104
CWorth Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gettysburg PA Posts: 845 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Well let me use a comparison I am familiar with since it has been what I have been playing more for the last few years with Silent Hunter games in between. Take World of Warcraft..I simply love the game.Good graphics and a very immersive game and story been playing for 3 1/2 yrs now. Now take the newer Conan game and you have better graphics but a very sucky gameplay and story line in comparison to WoW and loaded with game killing bugs and flaws. SH3 to SH4 is what WoW is to Conan. SH3 is the far better game even though it is a bit older in graphics but it more than makes up for it in gameplay and immersion.Just like WoW is better than Conan.

01-18-09, 01:14 AM	#105
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	this thread is very funny :rotfl: if you want to compare sh3 to sh4 then lets truely compare them. take STOCK sh3 and compare to stock sh4 and sh3 is a load of crap with just as many bugs as sh4. those who deny this are simply refusing to admit the truth. sh3 has had a long time and has taken hundreds and hundreds of mods to become what it is today with GWX 3. anyone who gives sh4 an objective new look with the mods it has available today will not have much to complain about. it is what you make it. the truth is, if most of the critics of sh4 would get off their lazy duffs and stop waiting for someone else to make the game better for them, then they themselves could be part of what makes sh4 and the new sh4 GWX mod something special. all it takes is a little time and just a little effort for ANYONE to learn most if not all modding tricks. just ask yourself this, if everyone said screw sh3 im not going to play it until 5 years from now when GWX3 is made, it would have never been made and neither would any of the mods you love today. sh4 and sh3 are the same game files for the most part, they just have different game engines so if it floats your boat to only play sh3 then delete the entire sh4 files and replace them completely with sh3 files to take sh3 to places it could never go as it is. think about all the new modding possabilities that would present. like it or not sh3 has gone as far as it can go and its fully matured in its old game engine so a tweak here or there is all your ever going to see from now on.