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Old 01-14-09, 06:32 AM   #21
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Originally Posted by Aramike
You'd be forcing someone to continue paying for the mistakes of someone else, even AFTER that mistake is known!

Sure, kids have rights. But not at the expense of other adults.
Law before justice? The kids are the most innocent in adult's messups. The alternative to not making protection of their vulnerability a priority principle - is to dump them. And that hardly is acceptable for a society claiming to be civilised. Sure, you have to make sure at court proceedings that one of the parents does not rip opff the other for nothing and although the new family where kids live can afford them, in so far father's rights needs protection. But that'S it, and the father never is completely innocent. It was his decision to get invovled with the woman in question. If she betrayed him, had a lover, got preganent, and the other guy leaves, and nobody being able to finance the kids, then it were the adults messing things up: the woman first, but the "father" second", for he got engaged with a person doing like this. If the relation was less off standard and people are more civilised even in conflict and while separating (such things happen), both people should be able to handle such questions with slightly better sense of responsibility for the kids.

Just saying: "they are not mine so I do not care if they get sunk by the river or not" - that is not an option, no matter who made what mistakes. chuldren are chidlren. somebody has to take care for them. Whether or not oin times of conflict luxury and spending money althouzgh it is not needed is part of that, is something different. But their basic safety has to be secured.

You are responsible for your choice of people with whom you get engaged. And if they cheat you, it has been your choice to get enagged with them nevertheless. Maybe look twice and think three times before sharing lives with a stranger. the high rate of divorces today last but not least comes from the fact that a.) standards and moral rules of living together have been eroded, and b.) too many people make too inadequate, easyminded choices of partners. Some relations are doomed to fail from the very beginning, since both partner'S charcters and ways of life do not match. Film stars are a very good, but not the only example.

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Originally Posted by TarJak
Prepsoterous it may be, however this is the way family law court decisions are made. Paramount is the interest of the child above all other considerations.

I'm not defending it, just stating the fact that this is how the judges are instructed to operate in these situations. This is to prevent the burden for support of the child falling with the state when there is another option.
Exactly. A much better way to say - and cut short - what I tried to express!
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