U-Boat average tonnage

GoldenRivet · 01-10-09, 10:33 AM

according to UBoat.net:

Most successful boat of the war was U-48, she had completed 12 patrols for a total of about 326,000 tons... this averages out to about 27,000 tons per patrol

however those results span most of the war and the results are not typical.

There were many many boats which never fired a single shot in aggression

I would say a good average per patrol to go by... with all difficulty settings checked would be about 10-12,000 tons per patrol.

Freiwillige · 01-10-09, 01:45 PM

Thank you Golden Rivet

Weiss Pinguin · 01-10-09, 01:58 PM

Once I get started, I usually try to go for 15,000-20,000 tons per patrol, or whatever keeps me towards the top of the scoreboard.

FIREWALL · 01-10-09, 02:09 PM

Tonnage scores depend on realism settings.

100% settings (manual targeting) + bad weather = low tonnage per patrol.

If you can get your hands on U-BOAT ACE The Wolfgang Luth Story alot of questions will be answered about surface shooting in bad weather as oposed to submerged. And deckgun useage in bad weather. It was done. In one Steamer he put 108 shells into it.

Freiwillige · 01-10-09, 03:25 PM

I do 100% and manual targeting. I am a realism buff! Although I leave external veiw on cause i love my oh so pretty type VIIB but durning combat I refuse to use it as it is a cheat in my eyes. I wont even use it to identify my target instead I chase and identify the merchant flag visually.

FIREWALL · 01-10-09, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freiwillige

I do 100% and manual targeting. I am a realism buff! Although I leave external veiw on cause i love my oh so pretty type VIIB but durning combat I refuse to use it as it is a cheat in my eyes. I wont even use it to identify my target instead I chase and identify the merchant flag visually.

Isn't it more gut wrenching that way ? Just the way I like it.

Robert Fulton · 01-10-09, 03:52 PM

German post war estimates:

1939 - averaging 13 U-boats at sea, 25 ships per month sunk.
1940 - averaging 12 U-boats at sea, 39 ships per month sunk.
(U-boats that did not return counted as 1/2)

So it looks like average per boat per month at sea would be 2 in '39 and 3+ in '40. Given that many of the patrols were in the North Sea and lasted less than a month, the per patrol numbers would be even lower. Average tonage per ship was what? Maybe 5,000.

33,000 tons was a great patrol in the real world. Even the great Kretschmer only averaged about 17,000.

meduza · 01-10-09, 04:49 PM

Kretschmer, Lüth and Topp have some 13-17k tons average out of the 14-16 patrols. Merten, Schütze and Schltze have 21-36k tons, but less patrols (5-8).

They are the most sucessfull commanders, and we should compare only with them.

The most successful patrol was that of Hessler in mid 1941, when he sank 86000t.

My average patrol is around 70000t, so that is far from realistic. I do use manual targeting, but not 100% - I have map updates on and external camera (for screenshots

), and some other stuff, which IMO doesn't realy have any effect on realism.

What is your average torpedo hit percentage? I would estimate mine to about 75-90%.

01-10-09, 10:33 AM	#1
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	according to UBoat.net: Most successful boat of the war was U-48, she had completed 12 patrols for a total of about 326,000 tons... this averages out to about 27,000 tons per patrol however those results span most of the war and the results are not typical. There were many many boats which never fired a single shot in aggression I would say a good average per patrol to go by... with all difficulty settings checked would be about 10-12,000 tons per patrol. __________________

01-10-09, 01:58 PM	#3
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	Once I get started, I usually try to go for 15,000-20,000 tons per patrol, or whatever keeps me towards the top of the scoreboard. __________________

01-10-09, 02:09 PM	#4
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Tonnage scores depend on realism settings. 100% settings (manual targeting) + bad weather = low tonnage per patrol. If you can get your hands on U-BOAT ACE The Wolfgang Luth Story alot of questions will be answered about surface shooting in bad weather as oposed to submerged. And deckgun useage in bad weather. It was done. In one Steamer he put 108 shells into it. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

01-10-09, 04:49 PM	#8
meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Kretschmer, Lüth and Topp have some 13-17k tons average out of the 14-16 patrols. Merten, Schütze and Schltze have 21-36k tons, but less patrols (5-8). They are the most sucessfull commanders, and we should compare only with them. The most successful patrol was that of Hessler in mid 1941, when he sank 86000t. My average patrol is around 70000t, so that is far from realistic. I do use manual targeting, but not 100% - I have map updates on and external camera (for screenshots ), and some other stuff, which IMO doesn't realy have any effect on realism. What is your average torpedo hit percentage? I would estimate mine to about 75-90%. __________________

01-10-09, 01:45 PM	#2
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Thank you Golden Rivet

01-10-09, 03:25 PM	#5
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	I do 100% and manual targeting. I am a realism buff! Although I leave external veiw on cause i love my oh so pretty type VIIB but durning combat I refuse to use it as it is a cheat in my eyes. I wont even use it to identify my target instead I chase and identify the merchant flag visually.

01-10-09, 03:52 PM	#7
Robert Fulton Mate Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: USA Posts: 59 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	German post war estimates: 1939 - averaging 13 U-boats at sea, 25 ships per month sunk. 1940 - averaging 12 U-boats at sea, 39 ships per month sunk. (U-boats that did not return counted as 1/2) So it looks like average per boat per month at sea would be 2 in '39 and 3+ in '40. Given that many of the patrols were in the North Sea and lasted less than a month, the per patrol numbers would be even lower. Average tonage per ship was what? Maybe 5,000. 33,000 tons was a great patrol in the real world. Even the great Kretschmer only averaged about 17,000.