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Old 01-02-09, 04:22 PM   #1
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Chock one up for Ford...My Idea of the perfect economical fuel efficient car would naturally be the Flintstone mobile...
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Old 01-02-09, 05:56 PM   #2
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Key words here are "in the city".

Its been my observation that most hybrids are suited for 'city' driving and aint worth a damn on the open highway.
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Old 01-02-09, 06:25 PM   #3
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My Civic Hybrid is consistently giving me 45 miles per gallon on the freeway even in the colder weather. I also like it because other than a small plate mounted on the back which says hybrid, it doesn't look any different then the standard gasoline Civic, unlike the Toyota 'Pius' which screams "look at me...I'm sssoooo green".
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Have a Camry Hybrid, assembled here in the US. Only difference is smaller trunk/boot space. Been getting an average 31.8 MPG since purchasing, with per tank being as high as 35, as low as 30.8. However, better than the truck that I use to drive on a regular basis, which is only used now for what little hauling I need to do, which got about 16.1 MPG (Ford Ranger).

I was originally looking at the Ford Escape, but I didn't get it because of three reasons. Lower Gas Mileage, only 1st Gen Hybrid Transmission, and I couldn't lay out in the back with the rear seat folded down (and I am not that tall). I hope that Ford has began to make their own Hybrid Tranis' rather than purchasing them from Japan, as the dealer indicated.

Next vehicle, I'll take a good look at Ford again. And hopefully they will get my nod, unless Toyota shows that they can produce better again.
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Old 01-02-09, 10:31 PM   #5
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I probably won't think about a hybrid until they eclipse 50 or 60 mpg. My 10+ year old Chevy Cavalier gets 32 (and still has a hair less than 100k miles). I'll keep driving it until I can't anymore.
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im driving a 83 Turbo diesel Jetta and am getting 50+ MPG fulls up with about 30 bucks last me all week and i put about 60 miles a day on it and as pretty darn fast for a diesel
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All the hoo-ha that the big three do not attempt to make more fuel efficient vehicles is mostly just that hoo-ha. They have attempted to make more fuel efficient vehicles with the base engines they use. Better induction and exhaust. Light weight materials. Two weeks ago I opened the hood of my wifes truck. I took a look at the intake. Traditionally, intakes were cast iron. Nice and heavy. Then they moved on to aluminum intakes. Very durable and half the weight of cast iron. My wifes truck has an intake that is plastic! I thought WTH! Plastic on a hot motor? No wait, plastic can take the heat not to mention cold air flowing through it that keeps it cool. Also, probably the 1/4 of the weight of aluminum. So hey, why not? OK, they dumped quite a bit of weight here with the intake. Items like this were engineered and tested to work well and produce a lighter vehicle thus giving better gas mileage. However, these base motors are at the end of the line for improvements for mileage/gallon gain. So, it is on to hybrids. I'm glad to see Ford is leading the way for the big three!

I-25 has a point with diesels, these engines can be very efficient. It is just very hard to get people to swing over and make a change. This includes hybrids. One day there will be no choice. It is a hybrid car or you are walking.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteamWake
Key words here are "in the city".

Its been my observation that most hybrids are suited for 'city' driving and aint worth a damn on the open highway.
Have you driven a hybrid?
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Old 01-03-09, 12:30 PM   #9
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Key words here are "in the city".

Its been my observation that most hybrids are suited for 'city' driving and aint worth a damn on the open highway.
Have you driven a hybrid?
Sort of I know people whom have one and driven theirs.

Probably the weirdest thing is that most everything cuts off when at a stop sign. Leaving you feeling like you turned the car off. Its dead quiet except for the radio. A curious sensation.

Another cool thing is the regerative braking. They sort of work like dynamic brakes on a diesel electric loco. The electric motors are set as generators and place load on the braking wheels putting current back into the batterys.

There actually pretty peppy from 0-30 mph after that their performance falls off. Over 45 it feels like your dragging a parachute can make it tough to merge onto the interstate.

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Old 01-04-09, 10:46 PM   #10
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Key words here are "in the city".

Its been my observation that most hybrids are suited for 'city' driving and aint worth a damn on the open highway.
Have you driven a hybrid?
Sort of I know people whom have one and driven theirs.

Probably the weirdest thing is that most everything cuts off when at a stop sign. Leaving you feeling like you turned the car off. Its dead quiet except for the radio. A curious sensation.

Another cool thing is the regerative braking. They sort of work like dynamic brakes on a diesel electric loco. The electric motors are set as generators and place load on the braking wheels putting current back into the batterys.

There actually pretty peppy from 0-30 mph after that their performance falls off. Over 45 it feels like your dragging a parachute can make it tough to merge onto the interstate.
My buddy, who is a big green guy, went out and got a Prius to put his money where his mouth is. It is a very comfortable car and appears equally at home on the highway or in the city. I agree, regenerative braking is a great way to conserve energy.
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