X-box 360 vs. PS3: Pros & Cons

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Why wouldn't you buy a BR player too anyway? The last thing you would buy a PS/3 for is the gimmicky BR player. You need a 'decent' BR player, unless you like cheap decoders, cheap A/D converters, and anything else you want cheap. Might work if you used an alternate decoder, but that's way more money than many people would want to spend when they can just buy a decent BR player.

-S

The Bluray player on the ps3 is neither cheap or gimmicky , its one of the best players on the market!

These are just a few reviews after doing a google search on reviews on the ps3 Bluray player , you'd be hard pressed to find one that says its rubbish or you'd be better off getting a stand alone player.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/12789...xperience.html

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content/id...port-v193.html

http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/so...iew-1129.shtml

[SUBMAN1]

Look at your sources. A computer mag is not a good source for audio/video.

Obviously we live in two different worlds. No offense, but your idea of a good DVD player probably costs a $100. My idea is about $1000. And mine does.

I should point out, that as a basic low quality player, the PS/3 is not bad, but that fan nor its quality will ever find its way into my stereo cabinet. I can't stand the noise from its decoder, nor its actual audible fan.

-S

[SUBMAN1]

Here is the current rev of my Proc:

http://news.ecoustics.com/bbs/messag...81/386267.html

It can handle Blu-Ray decoding as well. Not sure I feel like dumping $2200 to upgrade mine at the moment since mine is identical minus Blu-Ray support. The front you couldn't tell the difference, though the rear is a bit different - I seem to have more inputs for everything but HDMI. Still feel like waiting to see where the Blu-Ray market goes. It's not taking off like I originally thought.

This way I could probably buy the cheapest Blu-Ray player there is and just transfer everything to the Proc to be decoded. Still looking....

-S

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Look at your sources. A computer mag is not a good source for audio/video.

Obviously we live in two different worlds. No offense, but your idea of a good DVD player probably costs a $100. My idea is about $1000. And mine does.

-S

1 computer mag , the other links are A/V and if you did a search yourself you'd find lots more , just because you payed a ludicrous amount for somethings means nothing , I payed $3000 for a HD LCD TV 3 years ago and Ive just upgraded to the latest model of the same brand for $1500 - prices drop as more people buy something and you get improvements in the quality at the same time,Though ,I wouldnt touch a $100 dvd if you paid me

What I might suggest , is you find a store that can give you a demo of the PS3's Bluray on a decent home theatre setup and check it out , I think you might be suprised at the results

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by darius359au

1 computer mag , the other links are A/V and if you did a search yourself you'd find lots more , just because you payed a ludicrous amount for somethings means nothing , I payed $3000 for a HD LCD TV 3 years ago and Ive just upgraded to the latest model of the same brand for $1500 - prices drop as more people buy something and you get improvements in the quality at the same time,Though ,I wouldnt touch a $100 dvd if you paid me

What I might suggest , is you find a store that can give you a demo of the PS3's Bluray on a decent home theatre setup and check it out , I think you might be suprised at the results

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying its bad.

For one though, I have played with the PS3 and the one thing that annoys me above all others is the FAN!!!!

Besides, there is a different level of guts / internals / power supply isolation, etc. that goes into decent equipment. A dedicated machine will be designed to minimize these things, that is if they aren't designing on the cheap.

The fan alone should enough to discourage anyone from buying it as a movie player though unless they want to leave the feeling of story / disbelief behind.

Fans are not needed. I have easy 1500 WATTS+ online without one fan present. It can be done.

-S

PS. For HQ components, I wouldn't read either of those mags.

[ajrimmer42]

Hmm, what model did you try? On my 60gb, the fans are hardly noticable, even less so when you're emersed in a game, or a film, and you can't hear them over the audio anyway. And if you can it's just a good excuse to crank the volume up!

[d@rk51d3]

PS3 here too. For most of the above reasons.

The one gripe I have is the lack of DLC support for many titles. (oblivion, fallout, GTA......)

The 360 seems to have a bonus in this area.

[danlisa]

Originally Posted by d@rk51d3

PS3 here too. For most of the above reasons.

The one gripe I have is the lack of DLC support for many titles. (oblivion, fallout, GTA......)

The 360 seems to have a bonus in this area.

Yep, M$ has paid to have the DLC on the 360 first BUT it has already been confirmed that Fallout 3 & GTA 4 DLC will be coming to the PS3. IIRC the exact words were "Financial agreements have a time limit".

Although it sucks having to wait, I can wait for DLC. If the same was happening for game patches then I'd be fuming.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by ajrimmer42

Hmm, what model did you try? On my 60gb, the fans are hardly noticable, even less so when you're emersed in a game, or a film, and you can't hear them over the audio anyway. And if you can it's just a good excuse to crank the volume up!

A few different ones. At least one was a 60GB as well.

And the fans are loud to me. Clarity is more important than volume. I don't have up to 1500 WATTS on demand to go loud, but to support a massive dynamic range.

And there is not one fan in my entire stereo cabinet. You can also crank the volume control on my stereo to max without signal and you will have complete silence - no external interference noise.

I'm guessing the PS3's fans according to reports, cranks up pretty badly after 30 minutes to an hour into a Blu-Ray. People are complaining that its so loud that they can hear it over simple audio dialog from the movie. So it seems I am not the only one.

-S

PS. As long as you aren't playing a game, or watching a movie, this won't happen to you:



My old fan on my video card couldn't even get that loud.

Here is a another:




PPS. Typical forum questions:

I heard good things about how silent the PS3 was, but since I bought a 60GB about 6 weeks ago im finding the fan very loud. No matter what im doing, playing a game, watching a film, or just simply leaving the console on, the fan will come on and become loud after about 10 minutes. The fan can clearly be heard over films. Also the fan doesnt quieten down until I turn the console off. The top (right hand side) also becomes hot to touch.

[goldorak]

The worst thing is that new top of the line blu-ray players come with fans.
Hi-fi or video equipment should have zero fans (1st golden rule ).
Thats why they use such big enclosures in the first place. To be able to dissipate heat without the use of fans, which in any case add background noise thats disturbing to say the least when you are watching a movie or listening to quiet dialog.

[danlisa]

^ Both of those 40GB models have been put into their 'clean' cycle. The 40/80GB models both have the option of running their fans at high speed for around 5mins to expel gathered dust. Proven and added in FW 2.0. If those PS3's were actually running like that during normal use, they would automatically shut down to prevent further damage. The interwebs is full of scaremongering.

My 60GB launch model is coming up for 2 years old and it's never loud to the extent that's it's audible above any content I'm playing.

Hell, I've been on my PS3 most of the afternoon and I'm actually posting this from it now and the loudest thing I can hear is my 7 month daughter snoring 2 rooms away.

[Wolfehunter]

I'm no console fan. I have a PS3.

I find the game choices for PS3 poor. They have a few good ones out their but mostly shooters or hack and slash. PS3 is an uber PC. It acts like one. I have a mouse and keyboard connected to it and runs its own OS and I can serf the net etc. Why they call them consoles anymore is beyond me?

XBox 360 has more choices and variety of games. Also a very friendly MS interface to Vista. I don't own a 360 because I won't invest in it. Before you wonder about my PS3 I also didn't buy it. Was given as a free gift for purchasing a Sony vaio laptop for my wife a year ago.

In the end of the day I would choose my PC.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

...In the end of the day I would choose my PC.

So should anyone who wants a decent sim or games.

-S