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Old 12-27-08, 11:55 PM   #1
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Old 12-28-08, 12:03 AM   #2
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PD, I'm in a similar ideological spot as you. The reason I post about things political is more or less to get a sense of what both sides think. Helps me challenge my perceptions. I must confess, I also like to highlight the lunacy of the ideas of extremes.

I've found that, usually people who think they are right in an absolute sense, are absolutely wrong in some sense.
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Old 12-28-08, 03:32 AM   #3
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In situations where people exchange ideas and communicate in a "good will" environment your self-imposed restriction would be regarded as a loss to the community/forum. Heck! what's all the fuss about "freedom of speach" when we choose silence eh!:hmm:

On the other hand people rarely change views during "forum duels" and, yes, things may get out of hand easily and turn ugly. Nobody is obliged to put up with such a situation and in this sense I understand your decision. I only want to remind you that your posts are read by more people than actually replying in the threads and they might be agreeing/enjoying them, without you ever knowing (did that sound as a consolation, somehow?).
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Old 12-28-08, 07:39 AM   #4
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Huzzah, PD! Welcome to the ranks of the non-political. I think that you'll find your time here much more enjoyable without the need to endlessly attack and counter-attack those with opposite political views. As I have said again and again, I have read the forums on SubSim.com every day for nearly nine years. I have seen many come and go, but I have never, in all that time, seen someone have their mind changed over a political issue. Besides, this is a forum for naval combat simulators.
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Old 12-28-08, 08:10 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by Aramike
PD, I'm in a similar ideological spot as you. The reason I post about things political is more or less to get a sense of what both sides think. Helps me challenge my perceptions. I must confess, I also like to highlight the lunacy of the ideas of extremes.

I've found that, usually people who think they are right in an absolute sense, are absolutely wrong in some sense.
This man has the idea. You can use political discussions to broaden your own perspectives. And even if they aren't broadened, it's fun to argue, as long as it's done respectfully (more or less). And you can always learn something from other people's views as well.


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I, for one, would hate to see your opinions vanish from political threads, PD. That goes for all the middle-of-the-road types as well. Believe it or not, there are people who really think about what you have to say. Perhaps they end up disagreeing anyway. Or perhaps they discuss it with you and you reach an impasse. But at the very least, you give them something to think about.

Of course, some people will just hit "post reply", or "new post" and say what they think without regard to other people's opinions. That's okay, though. If you really bother to think about your opinions and at least consider those of others, you're a step ahead of them anyway.

Personally, my political stance has drastically changed twice. From Dem to Repub to Libertarian. Even then, I've had to refine my views several times based on things others have taught me, even on this forum. As long as you're constantly open to new or different knowledge, and prepared to present your own views to be challenged, it's a good thing.

Hope to see you in the next fracas
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Old 12-28-08, 08:45 AM   #6
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Wise words indeed PD

Too many political officers on subs these days

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