[WIP] Cold War Mod

[Werewolf]

@Sledgehammer:

Erhm... I'm crazy about that foxtrot model, is there any way in which I can use it in SHIII until SH IV arrives? hehe it would be great to try it. Are SH III and IV models interchangeable?

[Sledgehammer427]

noooooot really

I tried to do it with a 20,000 leagues under the sea nautilus model, and it didn't work in SH3, but it did in SH4. I'm still in playable ship Kindergarten, but for the Foxtrot and November to work, you will need SH4 version 1.5 (Uboat missions addon) and RFB+RSRDC as well, as the .upc files required to add the subs into the game are derived from that version.
I don't know wether they will work ok stock 1.5, it might, but I haven't had my computer working for ages, but I'll be coming back soon with my hijinks!

[Werewolf]

@Sledgehammer:

Okay, thanks for the info mate

Now I only need to find a place where it's possible to actually buy SH IV as a DOWNLOAD and not a dvd rom...........it seems to be quite a task, I've been at it all evening and all of the places available only sell to the US exclusively guess I just have to use the alternative and buy it as a dvd rom and wait for the traditional 100 years before it finally arrives here in this rat hole

[Sledgehammer427]

Originally Posted by Werewolf

@Sledgehammer:

Okay, thanks for the info mate

Now I only need to find a place where it's possible to actually buy SH IV as a DOWNLOAD .it seems to be quite a task,

have you tried Direct2drive?

here in this rat hole

you obviously havent seen where I live....ugh

[Werewolf]

@Sledgehammer

Yeah Direct2drive was the first place I tried, after having gone through the compulsory where do you live, what size are your shoes, confirm that you are you and confirm that you did confirm account making crap, I finally arrived at the place where I could order it only to receive the message "your basket has been emptied due to country restriction" ............this wonderful phenomenon repeated itself even at Ubisoft's "digital store" and others and then I don't even want to mention the dodgy places where you can buy SH IV if you agree to buy some other crappy titles that I didn't even go for!!!!.....what's wrong with the internet? it's completely f....d up!

you obviously havent seen where I live....ugh

Hehe......no, the pimple part doesn't sound nice............but at least it doesnt fall victim for the country restrictions of SHIV

[Ark]

Originally Posted by Werewolf

@Sledgehammer

Yeah Direct2drive was the first place I tried, after having gone through the compulsory where do you live, what size are your shoes, confirm that you are you and confirm that you did confirm account making crap, I finally arrived at the place where I could order it only to receive the message "your basket has been emptied due to country restriction" ............this wonderful phenomenon repeated itself even at Ubisoft's "digital store" and others and then I don't even want to mention the dodgy places where you can buy SH IV if you agree to buy some other crappy titles that I didn't even go for!!!!.....what's wrong with the internet? it's completely f....d up!

Hehe......no, the pimple part doesn't sound nice............but at least it doesnt fall victim for the country restrictions of SHIV

Have you tried Steam? I think they sell SHIV now.

[Werewolf]

@Ark

Steam?......No I haven't :hmm: ......I'll give that a shot before I try ordering it on dvd rom or see if there's a shop here who's selling it..........thanks

[faxnico]

Hello.

First of all my thanks to everybody producing CW-era mods here.

I'm really enjoying them all... especially the Foxtrot one, at which I recently added, during my first walks through SH4 modding, an huge Senzori.dat's U-Boat but working snorkel behind the tower.

In these days I'm also testing if it'd be possible to create a post-31/12/1945 campaign changing only the game INI files (meaning without reversing the executable). Did anybody tried this yet? I had no success during my first attemps cuz it CTD when the carrer's patrol loading progressbar reaches about 1/3rd of the total. On the other hand, the single missions work fine with any date. Any idea?

Thank you in advance.
Nicolò

[faxnico]

Sledgehammer, first of all thanks for your reply.

I tried for the whole day to work around the problem but without success... I checked a couple of hundred times that all the Foxtrot's equipments were properly fitted into the campaign time period and also testing everything with minimal settings (1 torpedo, no sensors, etc...).

The carrer mode patrols "run fine" (ok, it tells me the war is over, but I think it's fixable somehow ) until I set the start date in (because I moved everything to the German side) UPCDataGE/UPCCampaignData/CarrerStart.upc to 28/12/45 (included). The first mission anyway begins the next day. If I switch that INI file param to 29/12/45, I've the damned CTD when progressbar reaches about 1/3rd.

Did anybody here felt into the same problem?

Bye.
Nicolò

[Werewolf]

@Sledgehammer:

Well....Steam had the same country restrictions as the others so for me it didn'
t work

Regarding the geo- and demographical issues, well......I don't see that I'm better off surrounded by pinky, pale morons who think that a little snotty nation with 5 mio people run by a gang of national communist part time racists know best.......and for those players who happen to be danish as well I don't give a d.... if you take offense, it's my opinion and I'm not going to change it, come what may.........anyway this is not a place to debate that.

I think I'll give one of the nearby shops a go when they open before I try to order a dvd, but I've never seen this title on the shelves any where

Thanks for the help anyway, and I look forward to try that Foxtrot

[polyfiller]

XPETIT - here's what I've done to get Radar working on the Red October. First modified \data\Objects\Conning_627A_01.dat using S3d as follows;
72:Node - cfg#R01_NSS_Tambor_Tower01 to have the following values; X: -0.1 Y: 0.8 z: -0.5

74:Node - cfg#R02_NSS_Tambor_Tower01 to have the following values; x: -0.1 Y: 0.5 z: -0.7

Also modified \data\submarine\NSS_627a\NSS627a.sns to be;

; sensor configuration file
;lookout on conning tower
[Sensor 1]
NodeName=O01
LinkName=VisualSubWatch
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231
;atack periscope
[Sensor 2]
NodeName=O02
LinkName=Periscope
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231
;Observation periscope
[Sensor 3]
NodeName=O03
LinkName=Periscope
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231
;Hydrophone
[Sensor 4]
NodeName=H01
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231
;Hydrophone2
[Sensor 5]
NodeName=H02
LinkName=NSS_Hydrophone_Ball
StartDate=19411201
EndDate=19451231
;Sonar
[Sensor 6]
NodeName=N01
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231
;Radar
[Sensor 7]
NodeName=R01
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19420705
[Sensor 8]
NodeName=R01
LinkName=NSS_EarlySJ_Mount
StartDate=19411225
EndDate=19430701
[Sensor 9]
NodeName=R01
LinkName=NSS_LateSJ_Mount
StartDate=19430702
EndDate=19451231
[Sensor 10]
NodeName=R02
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19411224
[Sensor 11]
NodeName=R02
LinkName=NSS_EarlySD
StartDate=19411225
EndDate=19430311
[Sensor 12]
NodeName=R02
LinkName=NSS_LateSD
StartDate=19430312
EndDate=19451231
;RadioDF
[Sensor 13]
NodeName=D01
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231
;Radar Warning
[Sensor 14]
NodeName=C01
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231
[Sensor 15]
NodeName=D02
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231
;************ The End ************

Also modified \data\submarine\NSS_627a\NSS_627a.upc in the following sections;

;************************************************* ***********
;
; UpgradePackSlot
;
;************************************************* ***********
[UserPlayerUnit 1.UpgradePackSlot 1]
ID= UpgSurfaceSearchRadar
NameDisplayable= Surface Search Radar
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes=GatoSurfaceRadars
UserCustomizable=Yes
IDLinkUpgradePackSlots= EqSlot42, EqSlot43, SurfRadarAntenna
IDLinkUpgradePackSlotsIntervalDefault1= 1940-07-05, 1943-07-01, UpackGatoSJRadar
IDLinkUpgradePackSlotsIntervalDefault2= 1943-07-01, NULL, UpackGatoSJ1Radar
;IDLinkUpgradePackSlotsIntervalDefault3= 1945-09-01, NULL, UpackGatoSSRadar
[UserPlayerUnit 1.UpgradePackSlot 2]
ID= UpgAirSearchRadar
NameDisplayable= Air Search Radar
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes=AirRadars, AdvAirRadars
UserCustomizable=Yes
IDLinkUpgradePackSlots= EqSlot33, AirRadarAntenna
IDLinkUpgradePackSlotsIntervalDefault1= 1940-07-05, 1943-03-11, UpackGatoSDRadar
IDLinkUpgradePackSlotsIntervalDefault2= 1943-03-11, 1945-08-01, UpackGatoImpSDRadar
IDLinkUpgradePackSlotsIntervalDefault3= 1945-08-01, 1945-12-31, UpackGatoSVRadar

Then modified \data\UPCdata\UPCUnitsData\UnitParts627a.upc in the equipment section;

;------------------------------------------------------------
; DECK WATCH
;------------------------------------------------------------
[UnitPart 1.Compartment 1.EquipmentSlot 1]
ID= SurfRadarAntenna
NameDisplayable=Surface Radar Antenna
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes= NULL
UserCustomizable=Yes
IDLinkEquipmentIntervalDefault1= NULL, NULL, NULL
ExternalNodeName3D= R01;<Was R04 in original
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D= -1
[UnitPart 1.Compartment 1.EquipmentSlot 2]
ID= AirRadarAntenna
NameDisplayable=Air Radar Antenna
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes= NULL
UserCustomizable=Yes
IDLinkEquipmentIntervalDefault1= NULL, NULL, NULL
ExternalNodeName3D= R02
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D= -1
[UnitPart 1.Compartment 1.EquipmentSlot 3]
ID= RadioAntenna
NameDisplayable=Radio Antenna
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes= Radio
UserCustomizable=No
IDLinkEquipmentIntervalDefault1= NULL, NULL, RadioAntenna
ExternalNodeName3D= NULL
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D= -1
[UnitPart 1.Compartment 1.EquipmentSlot 4]
ID= RWRAntenna
NameDisplayable=Radar Warnign Antenna
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes= NULL
UserCustomizable=No
IDLinkEquipmentIntervalDefault1= NULL, NULL, NULL
ExternalNodeName3D= NULL
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D= -1
[UnitPart 1.Compartment 1.EquipmentSlot 5]
ID= AttackPeriscopeHeadSlot
NameDisplayable=Attack Periscope Head
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes= NULL
UserCustomizable=No
IDLinkEquipmentIntervalDefault1= NULL, NULL, AttackPeriscopeHead
ExternalNodeName3D= O02
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D= 26
[UnitPart 1.Compartment 1.EquipmentSlot 6]
ID= ObsPeriscopeHeadSlot
NameDisplayable=Observation Periscope Head
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes= NULL
UserCustomizable=No
IDLinkEquipmentIntervalDefault1= NULL, NULL, ObsPeriscopeHead
ExternalNodeName3D= O03
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D= 27
[UnitPart 1.Compartment 1.EquipmentSlot 7]
ID= DeckInstruments
NameDisplayable=Deck INstruments
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes= NULL
UserCustomizable=No
IDLinkEquipmentIntervalDefault1= NULL, NULL, TBT
ExternalNodeName3D= O04
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D= -1

You are correct in that the radar shows above the coning tower and makes it look less clean that it should.... but the radar works. If you make the changes to the upc files without editing the position of the R01 and R02 mount points, then the radar is on the boat but does not work.

Hope the above helps

[faxnico]

Meanwhile I almost solved my problem. It was quite hard, but definitely I figured it out cuz all .UPCs were clearly ok...

So, there're two border-date for the game: 01/01/1938 and 31/12/1945. And they're both hard-coded into SimData.dll.

Maybe I'll write down a patching-program someday, for everybody interested to get the game working outside that time range.

Bye.

[faxnico]

Hey guys, just one question... did anybody tried yet to build an helo for SH4 using UnitType=305? Does that code have any real sense for AI or it's just there for future plans? Thank you.

[Sledgehammer427]

its hard to say...insofar through my testing and looking through game files, i havent fouind a helicopter file...i dont know how to configure it in game, or else i would have...ther is also a guided missle sub slot in there somehwere...so who knows?

[faxnico]

Also, I was wondering if it would be possible to reproduce a SOSUS net without overloading too much the AI. Maybe creating some "Ordnance" elements with iper-sensible sensors (do they accept .sns files?) that cover a "larger than normal" area? Would be nice as well to see those "units" sharing their contacts with friendly air bases, which will then let take off Orion / Bear aircrafts. Am I dreaming? :hmm: