Obama Planning to Scrap Shuttle Replacement, Says NASA

Stealth Hunter · 12-25-08, 12:13 AM

Things have changed with our country. What's more important: NASA's budget or the United States' economy? In these times of hardship and financial troubles, sacrifices are going to have to be made. If we have to scrap a few expensive programs related to research that can wait in order to help the country, then so be it.

Aramike · 12-25-08, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Things have changed with our country. What's more important: NASA's budget or the United States' economy? In these times of hardship and financial troubles, sacrifices are going to have to be made. If we have to scrap a few expensive programs related to research that can wait in order to help the country, then so be it.

I don't see how technologically handicapping ourselves helps.

Sure, we get a little more money to throw around. Frankly, however, I believe that throwing money around is what got us into this mess in the first place.

Stealth Hunter · 12-25-08, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Things have changed with our country. What's more important: NASA's budget or the United States' economy? In these times of hardship and financial troubles, sacrifices are going to have to be made. If we have to scrap a few expensive programs related to research that can wait in order to help the country, then so be it.

I don't see how technologically handicapping ourselves helps.

Sure, we get a little more money to throw around. Frankly, however, I believe that throwing money around is what got us into this mess in the first place.

Why is it so important to, at this very moment, pour millions of dollars into NASA's research? It can wait. Right now, we should be using that money to rebuild the country.

Aramike · 12-25-08, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Things have changed with our country. What's more important: NASA's budget or the United States' economy? In these times of hardship and financial troubles, sacrifices are going to have to be made. If we have to scrap a few expensive programs related to research that can wait in order to help the country, then so be it.

I don't see how technologically handicapping ourselves helps.

Sure, we get a little more money to throw around. Frankly, however, I believe that throwing money around is what got us into this mess in the first place.

Why is it so important to, at this very moment, pour millions of dollars into NASA's research? It can wait. Right now, we should be using that money to rebuild the country.

Well, first I have to ask what you mean by "rebuilding the country".

Secondly, one must recognize that we are in a fiat currency system. If you take away NASA's funding you would be losing the immense resources it has in favor of dollars that don't represent any resources whatsoever.

Stealth Hunter · 12-25-08, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Things have changed with our country. What's more important: NASA's budget or the United States' economy? In these times of hardship and financial troubles, sacrifices are going to have to be made. If we have to scrap a few expensive programs related to research that can wait in order to help the country, then so be it.

I don't see how technologically handicapping ourselves helps.

Sure, we get a little more money to throw around. Frankly, however, I believe that throwing money around is what got us into this mess in the first place.

Why is it so important to, at this very moment, pour millions of dollars into NASA's research? It can wait. Right now, we should be using that money to rebuild the country.

Well, first I have to ask what you mean by "rebuilding the country".

Our economy is a mess. Cutting some of NASA's budget and projects would allow us to save money, and thus begin cleaning up our ecnomic state.

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Secondly, one must recognize that we are in a fiat currency system. If you take away NASA's funding you would be losing the immense resources it has in favor of dollars that don't represent any resources whatsoever.

It's not like you're taking all of their funding away, just some of it, and cut a few expensive projects here and there. NASA will still be alive and well, just with reduced fund to work with. BUT they can still work.

NealT · 12-25-08, 07:02 AM

Sure...lets scrap NASA in it's entirety. Then, what to do with the money.

I know...let's throw it to the wolves who are benefiting from a wrecked economy that they helped wreck in the first place?

I know of a couple of companies that need some corporate jets...

I know of at least one more company that hasn't thrown it's executives a big party in at least a week.

Someone is out at least 52 Billion because they got caught scamming people...

We can put that money into banks! They know what to do with it.

Ya think?

Who needs Tang, Fuel Cell technology, or any other of that cr@p anyway...

12-25-08, 09:36 AM

I am a huge spporter of spaceflight R&D. Indeed I consider space vital to humankinds survival, given the current rate we waste ressources. Earthbound ressources are limited, after all, so we do not have a choice but begin mining and drilling in the slar system sooner or alter. If humanity does not kill itself in the meantime, we do not have a choice, period.

Spaceflight thus is majorly important. But to uphold it, you need a stable and functioning economy, else there is not much money available to build upon that research. The basics have to fit, and the US lacks these basics atm. Postponing space programs to rebuild the economy makes a lot of sense to me. After all what good is a new transport vehicle if the economy lacks the money to make use of it?

Btw, if you take all the money spend on war, you'd be able to triple both NASA and Spaceflight programs funing without cuts to anything else.

12-25-08, 07:02 AM	#6
NealT Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 2 Meters Below Jimbuna Posts: 1,060 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Sure...lets scrap NASA in it's entirety. Then, what to do with the money. I know...let's throw it to the wolves who are benefiting from a wrecked economy that they helped wreck in the first place? I know of a couple of companies that need some corporate jets... I know of at least one more company that hasn't thrown it's executives a big party in at least a week. Someone is out at least 52 Billion because they got caught scamming people... We can put that money into banks! They know what to do with it. Ya think? Who needs Tang, Fuel Cell technology, or any other of that cr@p anyway... __________________

12-25-08, 09:36 AM	#7
Bewolf Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I am a huge spporter of spaceflight R&D. Indeed I consider space vital to humankinds survival, given the current rate we waste ressources. Earthbound ressources are limited, after all, so we do not have a choice but begin mining and drilling in the slar system sooner or alter. If humanity does not kill itself in the meantime, we do not have a choice, period. Spaceflight thus is majorly important. But to uphold it, you need a stable and functioning economy, else there is not much money available to build upon that research. The basics have to fit, and the US lacks these basics atm. Postponing space programs to rebuild the economy makes a lot of sense to me. After all what good is a new transport vehicle if the economy lacks the money to make use of it? Btw, if you take all the money spend on war, you'd be able to triple both NASA and Spaceflight programs funing without cuts to anything else. Last edited by Bewolf; 12-25-08 at 09:37 AM.

12-25-08, 12:13 AM	#1
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Things have changed with our country. What's more important: NASA's budget or the United States' economy? In these times of hardship and financial troubles, sacrifices are going to have to be made. If we have to scrap a few expensive programs related to research that can wait in order to help the country, then so be it.