Are they trying to make Iraq look like a Crusade? Christmas in Iraq.

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by subchaser12

I know Iraq isn't a crusade, but pieces like this just do the terrorist recruiters job for them.

So we're all supposed to just bury our heads in the sand and not do what we feel is right because it might piss of some Muslim extremists?

Giving terrorists what they want won't stop terrorism. It only proves that it works.

...and the fact that Christianity offends them so much is the freakin' REASON there is so much hate in the Muslim world. Maybe if they would learn a little tolerence, we wouldn't have young people blowing themselves up.

[subchaser12]

Originally Posted by Aramike

So we're all supposed to just bury our heads in the sand and not do what we feel is right because it might piss of some Muslim extremists?

Giving terrorists what they want won't stop terrorism. It only proves that it works.

...and the fact that Christianity offends them so much is the freakin' REASON there is so much hate in the Muslim world. Maybe if they would learn a little tolerence, we wouldn't have young people blowing themselves up.

It's this line of arrogant and uninformed thinking that has led to the Iraq disaster. Because of this childish view of the middle east, Iraq and the surrounding area will stay plunged in chaos many generations from now. We are months away from the 6 year aniversary of the start of the Vietraq war and it's still as if no one in the west has so much has read the first pamphlet on the middle east. Someone needs to write "The middle east for dummies".

Tolerance? What are the muslim kids supposed to do? Go to the mall? Get a job at wal-mart? Go to the movies? None of those things exist over there. We continue to fund countries like Saudia Arabia that spend 99.99% of their wealth on their own luxury while the population lives in squalor their whole lives. The poor people get violent, not unlike blacks in America back in the 1960's. Then someone spoiled like you from America arrogantly and ignorantly proclaims "hey can't you all just get along?"

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by subchaser12

It's this line of arrogant and uninformed thinking that has led to the Iraq disaster. Because of this childish view of the middle east, Iraq and the surrounding area will stay plunged in chaos many generations from now. We are months away from the start of the Vietraq war and it's still as if no one in the west has so much has read the first pamphlet on the middle east. Someone needs to write "The middle east for dummies".

Actually, I believe that the Purple Unicorn is going to swoop in and save us all. It will happen slowly. First, dogs, cats, and mice will unite to create a new United Nations. Then, a descendant of Lassie will take over as President of the World and institute a new order of peace and love and Big Band music. Finally, the Internet will be expanded to include websites from alien civilizations and we will all finally see how those little grey fellars built the pyramids.

I guess that has about as much basis in reality is one of your typical arguments, subchaser12. :rotfl: You always have these big, bold claims but never really show how they are true... probably because the only person who thinks you know what you're talking about is yourself.

How, again, is wanting tolerance to go both ways arrogant?

[subchaser12]

Originally Posted by Aramike

I guess that has about as much basis in reality is one of your typical arguments, subchaser12. :rotfl: You always have these big, bold claims but never really show how they are true... probably because the only person who thinks you know what you're talking about is yourself.

How, again, is wanting tolerance to go both ways arrogant?

Aramike ever been in the military? I don't want to accuse you of being a chickenhawk before I ask you that.

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by subchaser12

Aramike ever been in the military? I don't want to accuse you of being a chickenhawk before I ask you that.

19 years in, buddy. Worked in Intelligence for a good portion of my career, too. Specialized in Intentions towards the end of my career although worked on threat assessments and such earlier on.

[subchaser12]

Originally Posted by Aramike

19 years in, buddy. Worked in Intelligence, too. Specialized in Intentions towards the end of my career.

Why am I not surprised. Is it any wonder our military a bunch of screwups. You were one of the smart ones. haha.

I remember 15 years ago like it was yesterday. This kid with missing teeth and long hair at the airport. I asked "so what MOS you get?" He said intelligence. I got the sick sinking feeling in my stomach and I knew before the plance even took off the military was going to be a ****storm.

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by subchaser12

Why am I not surprised. Is it any wonder our military a bunch of screwups. You were one of the smart ones. haha.

I remember 15 years ago like it was yesterday. This kid with missing teeth and long hair at the airport. I asked "so what MOS you get?" He said intelligence. I got the sick sinking feeling in my stomach and I knew before the plance even took off the military was going to be a ****storm.

Our military is a bunch of screwups?

Wow, you really are an idiot.

See, in intel, you have to back up your suppositions with facts. You're probably glad the same doesn't apply to you on a message board.

Thanks for showing what you really think about your country and its fighting men and women. Personally, part of me hopes that one day you'll need help from one of those screwups who finished their service and reentered civilian life. And, I hope they know what you think of them, and leave you hanging high and dry.

People like you don't deserve the freedoms our brave men and women fight for.